Afwa, we talked for a while about how to do maybe some groups and clusters of episodes.

So I thought, because I'm feeling a little bit blue at the moment and a bit depressed about the state of the world,

that maybe thinking about disasters, catastrophes and environmental shocks might be a way to cheer everybody up.

Amazing, Peter. That's exactly what I usually turn to when I feel like I need

boost some good old catastrophes from history. Do you know what? I'm not even joking. If you know

about catastrophes, actually things in the modern world don't feel quite so bad. So things could be

a lot, a lot worse. So I know it's a slightly odd thing to then do to cheer yourself up, look at some of the strange moments in time. But I just think we're going through an age today of lots of different kinds of shocks. And environmental shocks is something that, you know, we've both talked about a lot and we're both acutely aware of things like global warming, astrologer hurricanes and storms, water shortages. And so I just

thought it would be quite an interesting thing to think about the legacies of some of those

events from the past. I love that. And some of them people will be aware of, but some of them,

I have to say, were quite new to me when we started working on this series. So I'm excited to see what we can learn from

disasters in the past. And of course, disasters kind of flattens the thing into something like a horror

movie. But actually, it's always more complicated than that, isn't it, Peter? Oh, but I love a good,

I love a good environmental disaster movie, big volcanoes, the earthquakes,

and all those things that we all know about, you know, kind of biblical floods and, you know,

catastrophic moments, but they're also kind of sliding door moments in time, the bit where

nature catches up or geology catches up with humans and suddenly things start to look slightly

different. So just to warn you all, we've got quite a long list of these topics. We did think

that maybe we'd come back to them later in the year rather than pepper you week after week

after week. But I think there's so many things we could be thinking about that opens up these

gateways to not just think about the events themselves, but to the legacies they have, because that's after all what we're trying to talk about. Maybe we shouldn't tell people we have a long list. It's going to scare them, Peter. That's not going to sell it. Let's just like hit them with amazing stuff. They won't notice that it's a long list while they're listening. Okay, so the first person

we're going to start with, we talked about already on Legacy quite soon after we started our podcast,

and it's the most famous person in Egyptian history. And if you want to find out more about

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