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Grave Concerns: Episode 6 'Change is Coming'

REAL

Naomi Channell

Society & Culture, News, Documentary, True Crime

4.8725 Ratings

🗓️ 28 January 2026

⏱️ 45 minutes

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Summary

In the final episode in this series, we look at crimes from the United States within funeral homes that have led the way for meaningful change and tighter legislation. And we end the series with hope and reassurance, by reflecting on the people doing incredible work in the funeral industry.


Including Kirstie Atherton, a funeral celebrant and founder of the community interest company 'Dead Positive', who is revolutionising the funeral industry, taking people and communities by the hand as they explore issues around death, dying, funerals and bereavement.


This is Grave Concerns.


To find out more about Dead Positive, please see here:

https://www.deadpositive.org/


If you'd like to support the show, please see the link to my Patreon here, thank you:

https://patreon.com/REALtruecrimepodcast


If you need support, please see the organisations below who can help you:


England and Wales - https://www.victimsupport.org.uk/


Scotland - https://victimsupport.scot/


Ireland - https://www.crimevictimshelpline.ie/


Northern Ireland - https://www.victimsupportni.com/


Australia - https://victimsservices.justice.nsw.gov.au/


New Zealand - https://www.victimsupport.org.nz/


America - https://www.fbi.gov/how-we-can-help-you/victim-services


Canada - https://www.canada.ca/en/office-federal-ombudsperson-victims-crime/services-services.html


Baby Loss Support - https://www.sands.org.uk/



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Transcript

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0:00.0

Warning, this is a true crime podcast and is not suitable for all audiences.

0:05.5

Please use discretion.

0:07.7

Crimes and unethical behaviour in the death services industry isn't unique to the UK.

0:13.7

There have been some serious failings around the world.

0:17.2

Crimes that have been discovered and have ignited change in laws and regulations to protect the

0:23.8

dignity of the dead. In this episode, we'll look at some of the regulations that have been brought in

0:29.8

and the crimes that induce them and also speak to some incredible people from an organisation

0:36.1

called Dead Positive, who are doing some incredible work from an organisation called Dead Positive,

0:38.0

who are doing some incredible work for people

0:40.4

who are exploring the issues around death and afterlife care,

0:45.1

because it's the one thing that unites us all as humans.

0:50.7

I'm Naomi Channel, and this is the final episode of Grave Concerts. I'll come. I'm going to Now covering Colorado at 5, the state shuts down a funeral home after a family says they got cement instead of ashes of their loved one.

1:39.0

That's just one of the accusations against the Sunset Mesa funeral directors.

1:43.4

The owners have also been scrutinized

1:45.1

for running a side business that donates body parts for scientific research. Between 2010 and

1:52.1

2018, Megan Hess and her mother Shirley Koch ran the Sunset Mesa funeral home in Colorado,

2:00.0

America.

2:06.2

They offered competitively priced cremations and other funeral services.

2:10.3

They were well known and respected in their town of Montrose and were often used more than once by families when their loved ones died.

2:17.0

But in 2016, Rooters released an investigative series

2:22.2

that shone a light on the sale of body parts in America. Like the UK funeral industry,

2:29.6

the American funeral industry and the sale of body parts were mostly unregulated.

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