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The Kevin Sheehan Show

Grant Paulsen evaluates the Nationals trading away MacKenzie Gore for 5 prospects!

The Kevin Sheehan Show

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🗓️ 23 January 2026

⏱️ 15 minutes

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Summary

1.23.26, Grant Paulsen from 106.7 The Fan joins The Kevin Sheehan Show to break down and analyze the Nationals trading MacKenzie Gore for 5 prospects then talks about the Commanders’ direction for hiring a Defensive Coordinator.

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0:00.0

Joe Thysman coming up at 11. Ben will jump on with us at 12, and Doug Cammer will be on with us at

0:07.0

1230 with Storm predictions. We'll have our own. I've got a smell test on the show today as well.

0:14.6

Jumping on with me right now is Grant Paulson from 1067 The Fans Grant and Danny Show. We'll talk some skins here in a moment

0:24.8

defensive coordinator search, but help me understand the McKenzie Gord trade to the Rangers

0:31.6

for five prospects. I thought that the rebuild started a few years ago when they traded Juan Soto and McKenzie

0:39.2

Corp became part of the future. What's going on? Where are we right now with the Nats?

0:44.6

Yes. So you were right that that was when the rebuild began. And the timeline, and I thought

0:49.7

the rebuild for a couple of years was going very well, the timeline was that as of this past season that just happened, you know, going into that year, they were supposed to turn a corner. In fact, in spring training, I remember talking to you about this on the air, you know, they said it's time to win, it's time to push our chips in. Well, the problem was, while everything had pretty much gone well in terms of what you acquired in the Soto deal, building up the system, having some young major league talent, they didn't spend any money to supplement it. They didn't bring in any big league talent. They fielded what was probably if everything went well, you know, mid-70s to upper 70s win roster. They needed to add in free agency and go spend and bring in reinforcements. That's what you do. You build the foundation. Think about the Wizards, what they're doing right now. But eventually you're going to have to go find your Shaggildes Alexander, right? You're going to have to bring in your stars to make this whole thing work. The NAC didn't do that part. Ownership didn't commit the funds to do that. The team ended up fizzling.

1:44.5

Last year was the sum of all fierce kind of season as it was. Injuries in the system,

1:48.7

some of their top arms. Some things go off the rails. They end up blowing out Rizzo, blowing out

1:54.1

Davy Martinez, and now they're resetting again. Now the question is, are they ever going to

1:58.9

spend when it's time to? They say yes.

2:01.5

I'm kind of in seeing his believing mode at this point, a little miracle on 34th Street bit here for me

2:06.4

with ownership. And I think eventually they sell. I just think it's not able to happen until after

2:11.8

the work stoppage. But that's kind of the big question. But people will say, oh, the rebuild was

2:16.4

a failure. I wouldn't say that. I think they rebuilt pretty well. When you get a foundation like they did with Gore and with Abrams and with Wood and some of the young talent supplemental, you know, extra secondary role pieces like Jacob Young and Dail and I think that's plenty of foundation in terms of the internal building blocks the supplements

2:34.5

didn't happen and so now are they kind of resetting and i don't want to say rebuilding the rebuild

2:39.6

but they're going to do this again yeah they absolutely are and i think what happened yesterday

2:44.5

was actually frankly necessary because here's like you have real quick the timeline has to match

2:49.5

so michael winger had a comment yesterday he was asked about like the Denny Yobbeia trade, and I thought it was fitting. He basically said, we don't regret it because his timeline didn't match our timeline. And this is the problem with McKenzie Gore, it was Boris advised. He's probably leaving in free agency in two years. They're not going to be good enough to win anything meaningful in the next two years. And everything they've done this offseason, in fact, says they're not pushing for a wildcard spot this year. They're trying to just get stronger at the minor league level to eventually be better. So if that's the case, trade them as soon as possible for the most assets. I would think Abrams, they've got to talk about as well at some point. We've got three years left to benefit with him.

3:24.9

He's not a Boris guy, so maybe you can resign him if you want to.

3:28.8

Yeah, I actually spent some time talking about the of Dia trade.

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