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Front Row Seat with Ken Coleman

Graham and Jack: Why Skipping College Might Be the Smartest Move You Can Make

Front Row Seat with Ken Coleman

Ramsey Network

Careers, Business, Self-improvement, Education

4.62.3K Ratings

🗓️ 30 September 2025

⏱️ 61 minutes

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In today’s episode, Ken sits down with Graham Stephan and Jack Selby from The Iced Coffee Hour. Learn why skipping college could actually speed up your success, how stacking skills turns you into a growth machine, and what in the world is happening with the housing market.    Next Steps:  ·       🪑 Join the Front Row Seat live audience!    ·       📝 Take the Get Clear Career Assessment.    Connect With Our Sponsors:  ·       Head to Avocado Green Mattress today for $50 off with code KEN50.  ·       Get 10% off your first month of BetterHelp.  ·       Get 20% off when you join DeleteMe.    Explore More From Ramsey Network:   🎙️ The Ramsey Show    📈 EntreLeadership  💸 The Ramsey Show Highlights  🧠 The Dr. John Delony Show  🍸 Smart Money Happy Hour  💡 The Rachel Cruze Show  💰 George Kamel    Ramsey Solutions Privacy Policy  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

46% of American parents would prefer their kids to go an alternate route to college.

0:10.2

Yeah, I'm so glad I didn't go to college. I think it would have been a massive mistake.

0:14.5

When you're seeing how much plumbers and electricians are making right now, it's crazy.

0:18.3

If you're an okay HVAC technician, you should be making six figures.

0:22.7

What happens when two guys with no college degree start asking big questions? For Graham

0:26.6

Stephan and Jack Selby, it meant founding the iced coffee hour, a platform for powerful

0:30.9

conversations shaping how millions think about money and meaning. There are plenty of places

0:35.8

throughout the United States where you could still

0:37.5

buy a house for 250 grand. Just ask why do you need to own a home right now? I think renting

0:43.1

is a cheaper, better choice. The only thing it really comes down to is... Is there a specific

0:48.8

number that if you can save this much money, it becomes a game changer in your ability to invest and win.

0:55.7

I'll be a f***.

0:59.7

Okay, guys, 41% of recent college grads are working in a job that does not require a degree.

1:08.5

I could have brought so much more data about how many aren't working in their

1:13.4

degree field. I bring this up because all three of us, college is not a thing for us. I'm a dropout.

1:22.4

You didn't finish college. Is that correct? Jack's the most educated of all three of us.

1:26.3

Some college is the box i can check

1:28.0

when i'm asked my education i've got three and a half years so so and then i was just boom i was gone

1:33.9

um the reason i bring this up uh is because i'm curious about your opinions looking back

1:41.8

i decided i'm not doing it or i'm dropping out. How do you feel about the decision now? Yeah, I'm so glad I didn't go to college. I mean, I was really worried in high school. I remember so many people were telling me, I think you're making a mistake. Maybe you just take a gap here and then you reapply. And I'm so glad I just didn't listen to those people I think it would

2:01.5

have been a massive mistake and I had no way of paying for it so like looking back if I were to go I

2:06.5

probably would have done the community college route but I'm glad I didn't do that be more specific

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