Hi, everyone. This is Curtis, and I am excited to tell you about a new feature of the GoodFaith podcast, and it's called Campfire Stories.

Now, in a great campfire, everyone has the opportunity to share their stories. And so, in Campfire Stories, we want to hear from you.

We want to hear a story about what you are doing along the themes of the GoodFaith podcast, perhaps it's something about how you're living out your relationships with political polarization, how you are trying to reflect the image of God in your institution and organization, or what you're doing with your money, or your vocation, anything that has been sparked by the themes that we've covered here in the GoodFaith podcast is fear game.

It doesn't matter if it's a big story, a small story, or something in between, as long as it's a story about what you are doing in your life.

We're not so much interested in hearing just thoughts. We want to hear stories of doing.

So, we'll put a link in the show notes where you can just click on it and then supply us the basic outlines of your story of doing, of living out the themes of GoodFaith podcast.

And we'll look at it and we may invite you to share that story on a GoodFaith blog, a social media, or perhaps even invite you to come on the GoodFaith show yourself and talk to me and share your story.

Like, how cool would that be? I'd love to hear from you. I'd love to talk with you. So, please consider joining the Campfire by actually joining actively and sharing your story with others gathered around the Campfire.

Thanks.

Welcome to the GoodFaith podcast. I'm David French with Curtis Chang. And today, we're going to dive into some stuff that's been roiling the internet that hasn't specifically applied to Christian controversy.

He's although some of it has some of it has to be sure, but most of it is not specifically applied to Christian controversies, but instead to incredibly important themes of grace and forgiveness and the lack thereof and accountability and how we should think about these things.

So, I'm just going to walk through Curtis a couple of here's the way this is going to go. I'm going to walk through a couple of these scenarios.

I'm going to we're going to talk about grace in general because I've got some thoughts about the difference between grace and mercy and if there is a difference that I want to hear from former pastor Chang about.

And then we're going to kind of break down some of the conversation about, okay, how can accountability exist side by side with grace. So, the reason this came to be is because I have there've been a couple of very high profile incidents where people have said things that they've regretted and they have been punished.

So, for example, the most prominent example probably is whoopee Goldberg. So, whoopee Goldberg earlier in the week on the view had a confrontation with her co-hosts about the nature of the Holocaust where she was minimizing the racism of the Holocaust.

And she was emphasizing the Holocaust not as a racist incident but rather something more along lines of man's inhumanity to man.

Now, she wasn't doing anything like Holocaust denial as in like the Holocaust didn't happen or the Holocaust wasn't horrible to the 100,000th power.

She was saying, but the Nazi motives, what she was talking about were Nazi motives and in her discussion of it betrayed what seemed to be a real ignorance of Nazi motives and a real ignorance of some really salient aspects of the Holocaust and she apologized and then was promptly suspended by ABC for a couple of weeks, okay.

It's less prominent in the sort of pop culture world but quite prominent in the world of academia is an issue involving Ilya Shapiro.

Now, I don't know what be Goldberg, I do know Ilya Shapiro and Ilya Shapiro is a guy he's actually been on my other podcast and his dispatch listers know it's the flagship podcast of the dispatch.

Good faith is trying in good faith. We're the nuclear submarine. We're in the test tracking. Yes, yes. So Ilya has been a podcast guest. I've known him for some time.

He's a libertarian scholar and he had been at the Kato Institute hired to be a lecturer at Georgetown University Law School.

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