Grace Gessel - "Whoever Hears His Testimony"
J. Brown Yoga Talks
J. Brown
4.3 • 710 Ratings
🗓️ 4 May 2026
⏱️ 118 minutes
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Summary
Grace Gessel, once founder of the Trauma-Conscious Yoga Method now offering faith-centered counseling at Through Faith Therapy, talks with J about leaving yoga and becoming a follower of Christ. They discuss religious trauma, being a public voice, questioning narratives around social justice and anti-racism, identity politics, church hypocrisy and exploitation, getting to the end of yourself, breath and prayer, somatics, waking up to Jesus, the Holy Trinity, spiritual warfare, and moving from a self-led to a Holy Spirit-led life.
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| 0:00.0 | All right. Here we are. This is Jay Brown Yoga Talks podcast. My name is Jay Brown. If this is your |
| 0:18.1 | first time listening, let me welcome you. |
| 0:23.5 | Everyone else, what's up? |
| 0:25.3 | How's everyone doing? |
| 0:28.7 | I don't know if you were here last week. |
| 0:31.4 | I had John Friend on the show. |
| 0:34.5 | And if I'm being totally honest, |
| 0:42.7 | I was completely surprised by the fact that I received no backlash. |
| 0:51.1 | I just assumed that I was going to get at least one comment or one email, or there's going to be at least one person who had an objection and that didn't happen, |
| 0:58.1 | not even one. Mostly people were appreciative. I mean, there was mixed feelings about it, |
| 1:05.3 | but in general, there wasn't the backlash that I assumed there would be. |
| 1:14.0 | And I attribute that to maybe two things. |
| 1:18.6 | One, the people who would have been upset stopped listening to my podcast a long time ago. |
| 1:25.8 | It's probably mostly that. |
| 1:29.0 | But I also think that something has changed. |
| 1:33.6 | Like if I had put out that episode like even five years ago or definitely 10 years ago, |
| 1:43.1 | there would have been uproar. |
| 1:45.1 | Somebody would have gone on social media and posted, |
| 1:48.3 | can you believe that this happened? |
| 1:50.1 | There would at least been like some comments or emails. |
| 1:54.1 | There would have been people would have been upset |
| 1:55.7 | and they would have gone online to express that. |
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