From The Advocate magazine, this is LGBTQ and A.

I'm Jeffrey Masters, hello, and today I'm talking to Grace Bonnie.

Grace, among many other things, is a writer and the creator of the blog, Design Sponge.

We spend a lot of time talking about coming out when you're an adult.

Grace was 30 when she came out, and she talks about how that affected her whole life, of course,

but also her business, and just the massive changes to her business that resulted.

We also discuss love and how some stereotypes about queer people exist for a reason. Grace met her wife,

and they moved in together after just a few days. And, you know, I think we need to celebrate

these stereotypes. Some of them are my favorite part of being queer, and a lot of them are

what make us a community. So we talk about all of that. Now, if you enjoy the interview, please subscribe.

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that. All right, without further ado, here's Grace.

I want to talk about your work and design sponge, but first, if it's okay,

I want to talk about sexuality, just in general.

Great, and I say that because most of the stories we hear about queer people revolve around a single narrative of knowing that you're queer from a very young age. And it seems like

that was not your story. And it's not many people's stories. And so you came out around 30,

is that right? I did. Yeah. When did you start to realize that yourself?

I knew something was different from as long as I can remember.

And I essentially had a girlfriend when I was in seventh grade but didn't quite realize that

was what was happening, except everyone else around me did.

And so it's such a like queer girl trope at least of like falling in love with your best friend.

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