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The Winston Marshall Show

Government Insider - ‘The British Deep State Is Completely Woke’

The Winston Marshall Show

Winston Marshall

Society & Culture

4.8657 Ratings

🗓️ 24 March 2026

⏱️ 65 minutes

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Summary

In this episode of The Winston Marshall Show, I sit down with former Foreign Office official Ameer Kotecha, who spent more than a decade inside the British government before walking away and speaking out about what he describes as the ideological capture of our institutions.


After eleven years in the Foreign Office, Kotecha explains why he chose to leave, and why he believes a new political orthodoxy has taken hold across the civil service. He describes how diversity, equity, and inclusion policies, identity politics, and what critics call the “woke mind virus” have increasingly shaped the culture inside government departments.


The conversation explores how internal training programmes, bureaucratic incentives, and institutional groupthink can influence policy-making, and why dissenting voices inside the system often feel unable to speak openly. We discuss the growing divide between political leadership and the permanent civil service, and whether the British state has become resistant to democratic change.


We also debate the future of Britain’s institutions, the role of the civil service in a democracy, and whether meaningful reform is possible once an ideology becomes embedded inside government.


A revealing conversation about power, bureaucracy, and what happens when political ideology begins to reshape the machinery of the state.

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Chapters

00:00 Introduction

02:25 Inside the Civil Service: Bureaucracy and “Corporate” Culture

04:22 Kabul Falls — While Officials Celebrate “World Afro Day”

06:47 The Rise of DEI and Identity Politics Inside the Foreign Office

10:00 The Hidden Cost of Diversity Bureaucracy

13:01 Ethnic Minority Programmes and Institutional Patronising

15:00 Net Zero Ideology Inside British Foreign Policy

18:28 The FCDO Merger and How Aid Reshaped the Foreign Office

23:40 Global Aid vs “Britain First” Diplomacy

27:44 Is There a Silent Majority in the Civil Service?

30:36 The Civil Service “Blob” and Perverse Incentives

34:06 Recruitment Without Expertise: How the System Works

37:17 Why Foreign Office Experts Get Replaced Every Two Years

38:55 Starmer Government Changes Inside the Foreign Office

44:40 Britain, Israel and the Collapse of Diplomacy

51:12 Aid to Gaza and the Risk of Hamas Diversion

54:28 The Israeli Psyche After October 7

57:19 Russia, Ukraine and the Reality of British Military Power


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Transcript

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0:00.0

Hello and welcome to the Winston Marshall Show with me, Winston Marshall.

0:05.3

Amir Ketcher has just resigned from the British Foreign Office, or to be more accurate,

0:12.4

the Foreign Commonwealth and Development Office.

0:14.5

And in this conversation, he explains to me how in his 11 years working in the British blob he watched as it became

0:24.2

woker and woker, not just climate woo-woo, but all sorts of diversity nonsense, LGBTQ flags and all

0:35.5

sorts of inclusion priorities.

0:38.3

We have a look at how this came about, what might be done about it, and how the bureaucracy

0:44.9

is working against Britain.

0:48.6

This is a conversation that not only includes foreign aid, but also looks at Amir's time

0:53.4

working in Israel during the Israel-Hamas war

0:57.0

and in Russia during the Russia-Ukraine war. Fascinating, as you will see. Before you hear from

1:04.6

Amir, I just wanted to say thank you again for your continued support without which we could

1:09.1

not keep this show going. Remember to press subscribe and follow wherever you get your podcasts from.

1:14.2

And if you head over to wintershal.com.uk, which is our substack.

1:19.2

You will hear Amir take questions from our brilliant substackers,

1:23.4

and you can ask future guests your questions.

1:25.8

If you sign up, we also talk about how British embassies are being sold off across the world

1:32.4

so that money can be raised to buy solar panels for the new embassies.

1:39.1

All horrifying stuff, all exclusive to our substack at wintershamarshal.co.uk. Otherwise, thanks again.

1:46.5

And without further ado, Amir Ketcher. Amir Ketcher, welcome to the show. We are speaking in the wake of your resignation from the foreign office.

1:58.0

You have spent 11 years there, including in Russia during the Russia-Ukraine

2:03.6

war, and including in Israel during the Israel-Hamas war, I believe also the 12-day war with Iran,

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