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Gangland Wire

Gotti in USP Marion

Gangland Wire

Gary Jenkins: Mafia Detective

True Crime, Documentary, Society & Culture, History

4.6623 Ratings

🗓️ 22 November 2021

⏱️ 29 minutes

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Summary

John Gotti Arrives In this reboot of an old podcast, I talk with my friend David Layman who was a guard at the federal prison at Marion. He describes the day Gotti arrived at the Reception and Diagnostic Unit. David said men gathered around looking and watching like a movie star was being processed. He heard people yelling how much they loved Gotti, how they would do anything for him, and other expressions of admiration for the former mob boss. David tells about the day-to-day life of the famous mob boss inside the walls of Marion. Learn more about his relationship with the feared prison gang, the Aryan Brotherhood. David noticed Gotti sat with the leaders of the AB at meals. He observed that during this time the Aryan Brotherhood engaged in business-like conversations with Gotti. He claimed that after meeting Gotti, the feared prison gang changed some tactics and did not rise to minor slights or signs of disrespect from other prisoners. They maintained a more business-like demeanor.    Gotti takes a beat-down David was the second guard to arrive on the scene when Walter Johnson was beating Gotti down. We get an insider’s version of both the events leading up to the beating and the aftermath. Gotti will die in prison and Walter Johnson will be released. Johnson does not stay out long until he is convicted of killing a Washington DC police officer. Show notes by Gary Jenkins   Venmo @ganglandwire To go to the store or make a donation click here To rent Brothers against Brothers, the documentary, click here.  To rent Gangland Wire, the documentary, click here To buy my Kindle book, Leaving Vegas: The True Story of How FBI Wiretaps Ended Mob Domination of Las Vegas Casinos. To subscribe on iTunes click here, please give me a review and help others find the podcast.

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0:00.0

Hey, this is Stephen St. John, and I want you to listen to my new podcast, Hot Mike with SSJ.

0:07.0

You can watch Hot Mike with SSJ on YouTube or download the podcast wherever you download your favorite podcasts.

0:19.4

You are listening to Gangland Wire, hosted by former Kansas City Police Intelligence Unit Detective, Gary Jenkins.

0:35.2

Welcome all you wiretappers out there here in the studio of Gangland Wire. Now, this is a,

0:40.5

I'm a re-edited of one I did that was particularly interesting. Once had a prison guard from Marion,

0:48.6

Illinois, the federal penitentiary, his name was David Lehman. And he had his own YouTube channel for quite a while as a key turns.

0:58.7

And then he took it off. And I called him this morning. It had been off quite a while and talked to him.

1:03.1

He said, you know, he said, I just had all the stories I had to tell. And I was done. And when he got done, he took his whole channel down.

1:10.5

And it's kind of a shame because there were some great stories on there.

1:13.6

And I recorded part of this one before about when John Gotti came to the penitentiary

1:19.4

and his relationship with him.

1:22.1

So I'm going to re-edit this thing and put it back out.

1:26.6

It's a great story. He's an interesting guy,

1:31.4

but he was there, as he says, the day that John Gotti came into the penitentiary. And

1:38.4

an interesting side light, he remembered our friend Mac McNally, Martin Mac McNally, who was the skyjacker that spent all of his,

1:50.0

he spent 42 years, 43 years in the different federal penitentiaries, mainly in Leavenworth and then

1:55.4

Miriam. And he remembered him well. He said Mac was a kind of guy. He was kind of a good guy,

2:01.8

but he was always looking to game the system. He was trying to figure out systems and

2:07.8

see what he could get for himself, which is pretty typical of what guys do the penitentiary.

2:14.3

Well, they got way too much time on their hands.

2:26.0

Mac even tried to escape two or three times out of that and was part of a pretty famous escape that David told us a little piece of that.

2:29.2

I've got that one back in my old catalog somewhere.

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