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Gospel VS Law Based Living (w/ Chad Bird & Ken Jones)

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Theocast INC

Spirituality, Christianity, Religion & Spirituality

4.8946 Ratings

🗓️ 15 October 2025

⏱️ 27 minutes

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Summary

What truly motivates the Christian life: the gospel or the law? Too often, we confuse gospel-driven living with law-based performance. This panel discussion, recorded live at our 2025 Theocast Conference, explores how the distinction between law and gospel shapes our motivations, obedience, and joy in Christ. Featuring a post-lecture conversation with Chad Bird, Ken Jones, Justin Perdue, and Jon Moffitt, this episode unpacks what it means to live by grace. If you're tired of legalism and looking for gospel clarity, this one's for you. JON’S LECTURE: GOSPEL VS LAW FOCUSED LIVING THEOCAST CONFERENCE 2025 LECTURES JUSTIN’S BOOK: MORE THAN FORGIVEN JOIN THE THEOCAST COMMUNITY! FREE EBOOK PARTNER WITH THEOCAST OUR WEBSITE YOUTUBE INSTAGRAM X (TWITTER) FACEBOOK

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0:00.0

Is there a difference between gospel-focused living and law-driven living?

0:06.6

In other words, what motivates us to want to live for God, to obey him, to see holiness

0:13.9

as something to treasure versus something to be afraid of?

0:18.7

Well, today's episode is from a lecture that we had from our Theocast

0:22.6

conference in 2025 on the law, gospel distinction. And I did a lecture on the difference between

0:29.0

gospel versus law-based living and how we are motivated from one or the other. And after every one of our lectures, we had a panel

0:38.9

discussion. And so that's what you're going to hear today is the panel discussion with Chad Bird,

0:43.8

Ken Jones, Justin Perdue, and myself. And if you want to hear the lecture, you can go to YouTube

0:48.3

or our website and watch the lecture there. But this is going to be the panel discussion where we

0:53.3

then discuss what it is that I talked about.

0:55.4

But there's a lot of great information as it relates to the law versus the gospel and how it relates to our

1:01.2

motivation for living. So hopefully you enjoy this. We're going to do a couple of weeks where we're going to put out

1:06.9

these panels. There's really great information on here. And if you'd like to learn more about the conference and the audio that's available, the video is available, just go to our website or you can go to YouTube and you can see underneath our folder there. You'll see that we have all of our lectures in there. We have lectures from Chad Bird, Ken Jones, Justin Purdue and myself. So if you're new to Theocast, we're so thankful that you're here. You go to Theocast.org to learn more about myself. I'm John Moffitt. I'm the pastor of Grace Reform Church in Spring Hill, Tennessee. My co-host is Justin Perdue. He is the pastor of Covenant Baptist Church in Asheville, North Carolina. We're traveling this next week. That's why he's not on here. So we thought we put out

1:44.8

this great content. You're going to love hearing from Chad Bird and from Ken Jones as we discuss

1:50.3

the law and the gospel and our reasons for living. All right, stay tuned. Hey guys, this is Justin.

1:57.4

Maybe you know that you are forgiven because of Jesus Christ, but you're wondering, what does Jesus

2:04.2

have to do with my Christian life?

2:06.5

How is he involved in my sanctification even?

2:10.1

Or is he concerned at all with the ways that I struggle and the way that my life goes up

2:14.2

and down?

2:15.1

Is there any comfort for me in Jesus when it comes to all of that?

2:18.3

Well, I've written a book called More Than Forgiven, how being in Christ changes everything

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