It's a beautiful day here in Portland. I hope life is doing well with you as we start.

We've got a huge show today. But right now, Sean Tima, the chief of staff with Young

Americans for Liberty, Y-A-L, Y-A Liberty dot org is their website, Y-A Liberty is their

Twitter handle, and his is Liberty Sean spelled S-E-A-N.

Sean Tima is with us. Sean, welcome to the program. If I'm reading this right, you are of

the opinion that Joe Biden's proposal that basically we go into people's neighborhoods

and make vaccines available to them if they want is some kind of big government overreach.

I get it that the Republicans are all pushing this idea that you shouldn't get vaccinated

because they want more people to get sick and die in the hopes that it'll crash the economy

and the hopes that that'll help them in the 2022 and 2024 election. Are you just going

along with the Republicans on this or is there some reason why you and libertarians think

more Americans should die? Well, Tom, great to be here. I reject the premise that we think

more people should die. I think that especially after you've seen, especially after you've seen

the government at all levels, mismanaged the responses pandemic, excuse me, the idea of the

federal government coming and knocking at your door and telling you that you should get the vaccine

is actually going to deter those target populations from actually getting the vaccine. How do you know

that? The regular one. Number two, how can you say it's mismanaged when you've got independent

sources saying that at least 300,000 deaths did not happen over the last six months as a result

of the vaccination program that Donald Trump started and Joe Biden implemented. It's working.

We've got one of the lowest infection and death rates in the world because we're one of the

most vaccinated countries in the world. Well, Tom, I think you look back at 2020 and if you're

a working American, I think it's. I'm talking about the government's response. How I'm talking

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