This is the Friends of History Debating Society. I'm John Bachelors. I welcome Thaddeus Maccater,

recovering politician, writing an American greatness. He cites John O'Sullivan's first law, quote,

all organizations that are not actually right-wing will over time become left-wing.

I cite as supporting evidence the ACLU, the Ford Foundation, and the Episcopal Church.

The reason is, of course, that people who staff such bodies tend to be the sword who don't like private profit,

business making money, the current organization of society, and by extension the Western world,

at which point Michelle's iron law of oligarchy takes over, and the rest follows.

That is a very good evening to you. The observation rye would also seem to be accurate

and has been accurate for some decades. In fact, this is a world I grew up in in the 1960s.

Do you see any reason to believe there'll be a diminution in the future, or is this now constant? Good evening to you.

I'm getting into you, John. Well, the reason I wrote the article was twofold.

One is I saw the study in Lisa D. Peswell, Lisa D. Peswell is Brad Newsletter,

where they had a clinical study of left-wing authoritarianism,

where they actually treated it as they do right-wing authoritarianism,

which is do a study on it to find out why people behave in that manner on that side of the political spectrum.

I brought a Sullivan's lie into it because it shows that these people are into it,

or dark ego-vehicle principles, which the authors of the clinical study coined,

which in short means they tend to hijack organizations that are highly visible,

especially to provide their own ego gratification,

and their own darker impulses and sense of narcissism.

We've seen studies on the right-wing, where that is clearly happening,

and some instances on the right, and no one disputes that.

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