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Google Nest's Surveillance Secret, Bondi's Epstein Meltdown, Meta & YouTube in Court

Pivot

Vox Media Podcast Network

Tech News, News, Technology, News Commentary

4.29.2K Ratings

🗓️ 13 February 2026

⏱️ 67 minutes

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Summary

Kara and Scott discuss AG Pam Bondi's disastrous testimony on the Epstein files and Big Tech's day in court as Meta and YouTube face trial for deliberately addicting young users. Then, the Nancy Guthrie disappearance case reveals that Google Nest stores “deleted" video, and an Anthropic researcher resigns, warning the “world is in peril.” Plus, Hong Kong media mogul and activist Jimmy Lai is sentenced to 20 years in prison, and Antitrust Chief Gail Slater resigns. Also, Scott predicts IPO trouble for OpenAI. Watch this episode on the ⁠⁠Pivot YouTube channel⁠⁠.Follow us on Instagram and Threads at ⁠⁠@pivotpodcastofficial⁠⁠.Follow us on Bluesky at ⁠⁠@pivotpod.bsky.social⁠⁠Follow us on TikTok at ⁠⁠@pivotpodcast⁠⁠.Send us your questions by calling us at 855-51-PIVOT, or email pivot@voxmedia.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:42.7

Yeah, if you want to wear your frilly underwear, I think I, oh, wait, was that a secret?

0:46.8

I don't wear underwear. Daddy goes commando.

0:52.4

Hi, everyone. This is Pivot from New York Magazine and the Vox Media Podcast Network. I'm Kara Swisher.

0:57.4

And I'm Scott Galloway.

0:58.5

Scott. We just did a great on with Kara Swisher about resist and unsubscribe, but I'd like an update.

1:04.3

Do you have another podcast? I find that out.

1:06.7

I do. You were quite substantive. Where are we right now? Give us a quick update.

1:11.2

It lulled Tuesday and Wednesday.

1:12.7

It appears to have come back today because Chelsea Handler, who reached out to me, posted something of all the things she was unsubscribing to.

1:20.6

And just to give me an example of how much impact one person can have.

1:25.5

I went on AI.

1:26.6

I went on to my site analytics. I think she just that one video she did

1:30.6

on Instagram, that one post, is going to inspire six to seven thousand unique site visits,

1:34.6

conversion of 5%. That's 300 people unsubscribing. Average of two platforms, 600 unsubscribes,

1:41.9

average 200. That's $12,000 times, excuse me, $120,000 times 10. So $1.2 million in

1:50.7

market cap getting taken out of these companies because of one instip post. Right, exactly. And, you know,

1:55.5

I'm going to see her tomorrow night, I think. Tomorrow night, she's here in D.C.

2:01.1

We should get them all to do things like that. Let's reach into the celebs we know and get them to do it. I'm going to bug them all. I like it. Thank you. Yeah, because if they do that and put even just one thing up, it matters. And it's an easy thing for a lot of them. And they kind of like it. Well, what people don't realize about economic protests, the most famous one was a Montgomery bus strike. It wasn't the one cinematic moment. It was an organization of thousands of carpools over the course of a year. So it takes a while. But any individual who unsubscribes from Open AI right now is taking $10,000 out of the market valuation.

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