There are no heroes here at the end of the day.

I don't really like anybody.

It's like it's hard to like the tech giants.

It's hard to like the government's poor crafting of the bill.

And it's hard to like some of these media giants who legacy folks who are extracting value for shareholders.

Because at the end of day, we're trying to save journalism.

But, you know, they're trying to pay bonuses to their bosses and dividends to their shareholders.

I'm just like, okay, well, I don't like anybody here.

It's everyone's bad. Hello and welcome to Tech Won't Save Us. I'm your host, Paris Marks, and this week my guest is David Moskrob.

David is a freelance writer who writes for a number of publications, including The Globe of Mail and the Washington Post.

He's also the author of Too Dumb for Democracy, Why We Make Bad Political Decisions, and How We Can Make Better

Now, in this week's episode, we'll be talking a bit about Canada. You know, the country

that I'm from, maybe you're saying, Paris, I don't really care what's going on in Canada.

And I would say, well, that's pretty mean. But luckily, I said that. You didn't say that, so

we're still okay. But you might have heard that Google and meta are threatening to take news content

off of their platforms in Canada in response to a new bill called C-18 or the online news bill that would

require them to pay Canadian news publishers in order to have

Canadian news on their platforms, right? And the idea is that people using the platforms,

whether it's Google search or whether, you know, it's just scrolling through Facebook or

Instagram, see Canadian news and the platforms benefit from having that news on their platforms,

and the platforms benefit from having the news on their platforms. And the platforms benefit from having the news there.

So since journalism is struggling, the government is saying, okay, platforms, American companies,

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