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today with a guest and a friend. Howard Gutman, the many-year ambassador under Barack Obama's

presidency to Belgium, has been on the show before Howard's become a friend over the years,

a listener to the podcast and the radio show, and a huge, a huge D.C. sports fan.

And we've had Howard on before just with compelling stories.

I remember the first time you came on the podcast, how much incredible feedback there was to it.

But I asked you sort of last minute,

so I appreciate you coming on, to come on today to talk about everything that happened

at the league meetings yesterday. And just to summarize for everybody, before we get to Howard's

reaction, for those that missed it, Roger Goodell, league meetings yesterday in New York,

lots of the conversation was about the Washington football team and the Beth Wilkinson

investigation and whether or not the league would be more transparent and release the findings

or release the report, which there isn't a written report of.

There were two things that the commissioner said specifically that were interesting with respect to his position and the league's position.

First of all, he did say that they're not going to release anything more, and he

emphasized the security and privacy and anonymity of the people who participated in

Beth Wilkinson's investigation. And then when talked about or when asked about specifically about the accountability

of Dan Snyder, Goodell said, quote, I do think he's been held accountable. I think the organization

has been held accountable. I think we've given an unprecedented fine. Dan Snyder has not been

involved with the organization for now

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