Good Healthcare Matters: Lessons from the Pandemic (with Don Berwick)

In the Bubble with Andy Slavitt

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🗓️ 17 February 2021

⏱️ 41 minutes

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Dr. Bob dials up Dr. Donald Berwick for a big-picture discussion about improving healthcare – generally, and as it relates to COVID. Don talks about the origins of the patient safety movement, his time running the Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services during the passage and implementation of the Affordable Care Act, and what lessons he's taking away from the pandemic. Plus, how to tackle the longstanding inequities in health care – and beyond – in America. Follow Dr. Bob on Twitter @Bob_Wachter and check out In the Bubble’s new Twitter account @inthebubblepod. Follow Don Berwick on Twitter @donberwick. Keep up with Andy in D.C. on Twitter @ASlavitt and Instagram @andyslavitt. In the Bubble is supported in part by listeners like you. Become a member, get exclusive bonus content, ask Andy questions, and get discounted merch at https://www.lemonadamedia.com/inthebubble/ Support the show by checking out our sponsors! Click this link for a list of current sponsors and discount codes for this show and all Lemonada shows: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1NEJFhcReE4ejw2Kw7ba8DVJ1xQLogPwA/view Check out these resources from today’s episode: Keep up with all the work being done at the Institute for Healthcare Improvement (IHI) at their website: http://www.ihi.org/ Check out the book Don mentioned, The Health Gap by Michael Marmot: https://www.bloomsbury.com/us/the-health-gap-9781632860781/ Learn more about the Swiss Cheese Model of pandemic defense: https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/05/health/coronavirus-swiss-cheese-infection-mackay.html Read the 1999 Institute of Medicine report on medical mistakes that Bob mentions in today’s episode: https://www.nap.edu/resource/9728/To-Err-is-Human-1999--report-brief.pdf Watch Don’s full 2012 Harvard Medical School commencement speech: https://youtu.be/wmEbO58chac Learn more about Dr. Bob Wachter and the UCSF Department of Medicine here: https://medicine.ucsf.edu/ To follow along with a transcript and/or take notes for friends and family, go to www.lemonadamedia.com/show/in-the-bubble shortly after the air date. Stay up to date with us on Twitter, Facebook, and Instagram at @LemonadaMedia. For additional resources, information, and a transcript of the episode, visit lemonadamedia.com. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:53.6	In the Great Entrance Hall to the Hubert Humphrey building, that's the headquarters where CMS
1:00.7	is, where I worked.
1:02.1	Chiseled on the wall of the Great Hall in massive letters of the words of Senator Hubert
1:07.2	Humphrey, which he spoke at the dedication of that building in his name.
1:12.0	He said, the moral test of government is how it treats people in the dawn of life, the
1:18.2	children, the twilight of life, the aged, and in the shadows of life, the sick, the
1:23.4	needy, and the handicapped.
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1:31.0	These among us in the shadows, they don't speak, not loudly.
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