Hey, it's Jessica Honegger, founder of the socially conscious fashion brand Nune Day Collection,

and this is the Going Scared Podcast, where we cover all things impact, entrepreneurship, and courage.

I have been waiting and waiting and waiting for today's episode.

We have finally are going to cover together all things Eniagram.

Now, let me give you a heads up that this is definitely an

Eniagram deep dive.

So if you're really just wanting a basic Eniagram 101, then there are so many people out there who have provided that.

My guest on today's show is Suzanne Sebel, and Suzanne actually has her own podcast, so go check that

out to get the Eniagram 101 because we go a little bit deeper here and get into some of the

complexities, especially how it relates to vulnerability. Suzanne is a sought after speaker and teacher. She's an internationally recognized

any agram master and she's written some of the most

transformational books that I read on the anyagram that wrote back to you

with Ian Morgan Crown and most recently the path

between us which is all about the iniagram in relationships which is some of what we get

into today. My conversation with Suzanne is impactful for me because it launches us into the second section of my new book and perfect courage,

which honestly you guys, this is my favorite section if I'm allowed to have a favorite section for my book,

because it really is about going together. We are better together and

that's a challenging message sometime and that's why I wanted to have Suzanne on because

I think when we understand the Enigram not just in relation to ourselves and whatever we are and all of that

but really in relation to others that's when we're able to deepen our connection with other people

which to me is what life is all about. So here's Suzanne's De Beal,

get ready to move from inner reckoning

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