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Climbing Gold

Going Pro: Lincoln Knowles and Zander Waller

Climbing Gold

Duct Tape Then Beer

Wilderness, Sports

4.9983 Ratings

🗓️ 3 April 2026

⏱️ 62 minutes

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The path to professionalism is murky at best. Even for established world-class athletes, it’s a struggle to make it work. Two friends chart very different paths in the hopes of getting paid to do what they love.  Watch Climbing Gold on YouTube Thanks to our sponsors The North Face Check out Summit Series at thenorthface.com  Waking Up Try Waking Up for 30 days free by going to wakingup.com/honnold AG1 Go to DrinkAG1.com/climbinggold to get an AG1 Flavor Sampler and a bottle of Vitamin D3+K2 FREE in your Welcome Kit with your first AG1 subscription (a $72 value). LMNT Get your free LMNT Sample Pack with any purchase at www.drinklmnt.com/climbinggold. Try the new LMNT Sparkling — a bold, 16-ounce can of sparkling electrolyte water. Turtlebox Take your music anywhere turtleboxaudio.com Kodiak Cakes Find Kodiak products at your local grocery store, they're the ones with the bear on the box or learn more at Kodiakcakes.com Want Climbing Gold ad free? Check out ⁠Unroped

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0:00.0

I love your quip at the start of Taipei 101. You're like, be bold, start cold. Is that the standard for you?

0:06.0

Did I actually, did I say that at the bottom of Type 1 101? I think so. Yeah, that's what... Like on the broadcast? Yeah. Yeah. That's so funny. I say that all the time because I mean, that's like every time I leave the car, like start hiking in the crag, you're like, be bold, start cold. I'm the opposite. I'm such a ween. I'm like, I'll just stop five minutes in and change, but it's kind of hard to do when you're stilling a skyscraper.

0:24.0

And that's why you don't... like be bold start cold. I'm the opposite. I'm such a weaning. I'm like, I'll just stop five minutes in and change, but it's kind of hard to do when you're

0:22.9

still in a skyscraper.

0:24.1

And that's why you don't set as many speed records. Yeah, it's true. So is the choice often, the black technical pants and the red tea? Yeah. t-shirt when you're slightly chilly is I mean that's boldness you just go for it honestly at the

0:39.1

bottom of type of 101 I was quite conflicted I'm like do I wear my When you're slightly chilly is, I mean, that's boldness. You just go for it. Honestly, at the bottom

0:39.3

of type of 101, I was quite conflicted. I'm like, do I wear my fleece? Do I wear a layer on top? Even though I'm in the sun and it is kind of warm, but it's windy. It's going to be cold, but you're going 1,700 feet up this building. You're like, I don't know. So you went with what you new. They've never let me down me down before the north face has you covered discover gear designed to take you to new heights at the northface

0:58.9

dot com all right Alex i have to start today with dad lore what is dad lore have you not heard of dad lore yet

1:07.1

i've i i don't know what dad lore is, no. It's what, like, the young kids say

1:12.1

about, like, there are, you know, friends' parents that if a dad has done something proper,

1:19.7

a young person might, like, refer to it and say, that's dad lore. Like, that's cool. Like,

1:25.9

they give them props. So I feel like you're going to be rich with dad lore at one's cool like they give them props so I feel like you're gonna be rich with dad

1:28.9

lore at one point yeah yeah yeah I'm gonna have a tremendous amount of dad lore yeah I see what you said

1:35.4

okay so let's hear your dad lore yeah okay so many millennia ago when I was probably like 22 23

1:42.4

I was out doing this like big solo link up in the cascades and the Enchantments, which is this is like awesome granite playground up there. And I was, you know, kind of like linking all these routes together. And right in the middle of the day, I was doing the West Ridge of Precious route, which is this super classic, super easy but beautiful, easy ridge up, like this very iconic peak in the Cascades. And I'm going along the ridge and you go right past this like sick headwall. And right in the middle of this sick headwall, there's this like amazing splitter going right up the center of it. I was like, holy shit, what is that thing? You know, I get back down. I like look at all the old crazy Becky guidebooks and there's nothing. Like I can't find anything anywhere. there's, you know, really at that stage, there get back down. I, like, look at all the old crazy Becky guidebooks, and there's nothing.

2:18.3

Like, I can't find anything anywhere.

2:19.8

There's, you know, really at that stage, there's nothing online, too, like, period, about anything.

2:23.8

I talked to Becca. I'm like, Becca, we got to go do this thing. We get our other friend Aaron. and the day we show up at the base, another party shows up at the base, like, within an hour of each other.

2:36.0

Like, I think I've actually

2:37.1

already started climbing, and there's a big dihedral that separates the wall. I'm on, like, the left

2:41.9

side of it, and they're like, what are you here to do? And we all both, like, point up at the headwall.

2:46.8

And it was this guy named Brooke Sandall, who's kind of like an underground legend.

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