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Podlitical

Godfather Christmas

Podlitical

BBC

Government, News

4.6157 Ratings

🗓️ 14 December 2023

⏱️ 30 minutes

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Summary

The team talk difficult decisions facing Holyrood, and the "Five Families" in the Tories. In Holyrood, the Scottish Government faces tough political choices ahead of next week's budget, and whether or not to appeal the ruling in favour of the UK Government in relation to blocking Scotland's Gender Recognition Reform bill, as well as a row with Lord David Cameron over how meetings with foreign leaders should be conducted by the Scottish cabinet following First Minister Humza Yousaf meeting with Turkish President Erdogan at COP28. In Westminster, Prime Minister Rishi Sunak saw off rumours of rebellion over his Rwanda policy, but with the so-called "Five Families" within the Tory party vying for influence, is he in clear water yet?

Transcript

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0:00.0

BBC Sounds

0:02.4

You're listening to BBC Scotland

0:09.8

Hello, you're listening to Political BBC Scotland's podcast

0:15.8

That brings you an inside look at the big stories coming out of Hollywood and Westminster.

0:20.0

It is about 20 past two on

0:21.7

Thursday the 14th of December. I am Phil Sim, a journalist based at the Scottish Parliament. And today

0:27.4

I'm joined by Georgia Roberts, journalist based in Westminster. I'm Glenn Campbell, sitting opposite

0:32.4

you, Phil, here at Holyrood. You know it is all kicking off and we've got Glenn Campbell,

0:36.1

political editor in the house. And I think we're got Glenn Campbell, political editor, in the House.

0:44.7

And I think we're probably going to start at Westminster, George, another febrile week in Westminster politics.

0:48.3

Love to talk about the five families of the Conservative Party.

0:49.8

What is going on?

0:54.0

Yeah, who are these five families and why they've been causing so much trouble?

1:08.6

So obviously this week there has been a lot of drama surrounding Rishi Sunax's plans for illegal migration in the form of his emergency, so-called legislation, which is the Ruranda bill, which has now passed its second reading.

1:11.9

But boy, did he have a fight on his hands, all sorts of people within his own party, very unhappy about various aspects of this. And so five families,

1:19.0

what we're talking about, get comfortable, by the way, because we've got five families to get

1:22.7

through here. But I think it's important we just explain...

1:24.6

It's going to watch the entire Godfather trilogy during this answer. I mean, it is of course a mafayatum and not everyone is very impressed with the fact that this is the way they're being described.

1:33.3

But anyway, so who are they? their name in recent years during the Brexit wars, if we can call them that, where their demands

1:44.5

for a hardline Brexit really made Theresa May's life pretty miserable. Their influences kind of waned

1:51.0

after Brexit finally happened, but it's since been revived with recent events these days. They're

1:57.5

after a harder line with the Rwanda plans. And then you've got the new conservatives headed up by the two conservative MPs,

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