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Meridian Magazine--Come Follow Me Latter-day Saint Podcast

“God Sent His Son into the World Not to Condemn the World” featuring Elder Bruce C. Hafen

Meridian Magazine--Come Follow Me Latter-day Saint Podcast

Scot Facer Proctor

Religion & Spirituality

4.71.1K Ratings

🗓️ 27 March 2026

⏱️ 43 minutes

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Summary

We remember well those

events and carry their magnificent hope with us. One night Scot and I were trying to photograph an olive tree on the Mount of Olives, not far from Gethsemane, to represent the Savior in the garden. It was dark and gradually a hush and then silence fell over our world where we worked alone. Because it was dark, these photographs took several minutes, and we worked alone on that mount for nearly three hours, hoping to capture a stunning photograph. We remembered how Elder Jeffrey R. Holland had described the Savior’s atonement. “We celebrate the gift of victory over ever fall we have ever experienced, every sorrow we have ever known, every discouragement we have ever had, every fear we have ever faced—to say nothing of our resurrection from death and forgiveness for our sins.”

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0:00.0

Hello, we're Scott and Maureen Proctor and this is Meridian Magazine's Come Follow Me podcast, where today we celebrate Easter.

0:12.8

We remember well those events and carry their magnificent hope within us.

0:18.6

One night Scott and I were trying to photograph an olive tree on the Mount

0:22.6

of Olives, not far from Gessimony, to represent the Savior in the garden. It was dark, and

0:29.7

gradually a hush and then silence fell over our world where we worked alone. Because it was dark,

0:36.9

these photographs took several minutes, and we worked alone on that

0:41.0

mount for nearly three hours, hoping to capture a stunning photograph.

0:46.7

We remembered how Elder Jeffrey R. Holland had described the Savior's Atonement.

0:52.1

We celebrate the gift of victory over every fall we have ever experienced,

0:57.0

every sorrow we have ever known, every discouragement we have ever had, every fear we have ever

1:06.0

faced to say nothing of our resurrection from death and forgiveness for our sins.

1:12.8

As we consider the Savior's atonement today, we have invited Elder Bruce C. Hafen to join us,

1:19.7

whose book, The Broken Heart, applying the atonement to life's experiences and covenant hearts,

1:26.7

has helped so many understand the atonement more thoroughly,

1:31.2

and we especially have loved this book over the years. Bruce Hafen grew up in St. George, Utah,

1:37.0

and after serving a mission to Germany, he met his wife, Marie, from Bountiful, Utah at B.Y.U.,

1:43.8

they were married in 1964. Elder Haffin received a

1:48.3

bachelor's degree from BYU and a Jurisdoctrine degree from the University of Utah. After practicing

1:54.8

law in Salt Lake City, he went to BYU in 1971 as a member of the original faculty of BYU's new law school. He taught and published research on

2:06.3

family law and constitutional law. He served as the president of BYU, Idaho from 1978 to 1985.

2:14.6

Then he was dean of the BYU law school and later served as the provost, the second in command at

2:20.7

BYU.

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