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Say, won't he do it? Yes, he will.

Won't he do it? Yes, he will. He'll take a stone.

Make you still.

Only do it out.

Yes, he will.

Welcome, this is E Larson Live.

I'm always so honored to get to spend this time with you.

In fact, I look forward to bringing you conversations every single day that hopefully

inspire you in your faith walk, that deepen your

understanding of God's word, and that heightens your awareness of his very real presence in your

life. Well, did you know that the good news is even better than you once thought? It's so good

that it's not a once-and-done proposition. It is an amazing message of hope, redemption,

sanctification. My guest today say that encountering the incomparable and measurable grace of

Jesus is like getting run over by a freight train. You're powerless against it. It takes you where

it wants to go, and you can't do anything to stop it. And it dramatically changes everything.

The grace train is the most powerful thing in the universe and also the most beautiful.

Are you excited for today's conversation yet? Joby and Charles have been on my show plenty of times.

Joby Martin, Charles Martin, no physical relation, but of course, spiritual relation.

They've joined me many times as they've

done numerous projects together. And I wanted to revisit a book that they released a while back

because I just felt like it was a good hour in our day in history and day in culture to talk about

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