God Forbid

Doing Justice

CAFE

Documentary, Government, Society & Culture, True Crime

5 • 873 Ratings

🗓️ 10 February 2021

⏱️ 47 minutes

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Summary

In this third episode of Doing Justice, Preet Bharara's six-part adaptation of his bestselling book, Preet tells the disturbing story of former NYPD Officer Gilberto Valle. People who work in law enforcement learn to have a special sense of impending danger, like a little voice in our heads that goes, “God forbid.” God forbid somebody should be planning a terrible crime, and no one steps in to stop him. There have been a lot of those moments in Preet’s career. This case was one of the worst. NOTE: This episode contains graphic depictions of violence and sexual assault and may not be suitable for all listeners. For references and a transcript, visit: cafe.com/doing-justice-podcast/episode-3-god-forbid Purchase the paperback of the bestselling book that inspired the podcast, Doing Justice: A Prosecutor's Thoughts on Crime, Punishment, and the Rule of Law: doingjusticebook.com Doing Justice is produced in collaboration with Transmitter Media. This episode was written & produced by Shoshi Shmuluvitz. Our editor is Sara Nics and the executive producer is Gretta Cohn. We had production help from Ariana Lee. The executive producer at CAFE Studios is Tamara Sepper and the chief business officer is Geoff Isenman. Meral Agish fact checked this episode. And Hannis Brown composed our original music and was our mix engineer for this series. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0	It seems like each news cycle is filled with stories of people testing the boundaries of our laws.
0:06.0	To help illuminate the complex legal issues shaping our country,
0:09.0	Cafe has assembled a team of legal experts for a new podcast called The Council.
0:15.2	You'll hear from former U.S. attorneys Joyce Vance and Barbara McQuaid, legal scholar
0:19.5	Rachel Barco, former FBI Special Agent Asher Rangapa, and of course me,
0:24.0	Elle Honegg, a former prosecutor and CNN senior legal analyst.
0:28.0	Listen to commentary from The Council twice a week by subscribing on your favorite podcast app. That's Council,
0:34.6	C-O-N-S-E-L.
0:37.0	Hey folks, this episode contains graphic descriptions of violence and sexual assault, and it may not be suitable for all
0:44.3	listeners.
0:45.3	Seriously, this is one of the most disturbing stories I came across in my time at SDNY, but it's an important
0:51.4	story that sheds light on what we do and why.
0:57.0	Kathleen Mangan had been married for less than a year when her husband stopped coming to bed.
1:02.0	This is a reenactment of what she said. He always said that because
1:06.6	he got home late he couldn't go right to sleep. So he would play video games, watch TV, go on the internet for a couple of hours, and then, after I got pregnant, it kept getting worse.
1:20.0	He started staying up really late, or not coming to bed at all.
1:24.0	He would stay up until three, four, five in the morning,
1:28.8	or just not come to sleep in our bed.
1:31.6	He also just didn't seem interested in her. He didn't help take
1:35.9	care of their infant daughter. He just wasn't very present. Their marriage was in trouble,
1:42.3	and Kathleen was getting suspicious.
1:45.0	What was he doing online all night?
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