Goats, Ghosts, and Roadkill [Live stories from Portsmouth]

Outside/In

NHPR

Society & Culture, Documentary, Natural Sciences, Nature, Science

4.7 • 1.5K Ratings

🗓️ 18 February 2026

⏱️ 54 minutes

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A few weeks ago, Nate gathered a group of storytellers in front of a live audience in Portsmouth, N.H. to celebrate 10 years of Outside/In. From goats to ghosts and ill-fated coloring book pages, this motley crew of storytellers explored the theme of metamorphosis in a changing world. If you’ve got a special moment or episode from Outside/In’s long history, we’d love to hear about it. Send us a note at outsidein@nhpr.org. Featuring Gretchen Legler, Kianny Antigua, Sara Lamagna, Jake Lewis, Aubrey Nelson, Dave Anderson Produced by Taylor Quimby and Zoë Mitchell. For full credits and transcript, visit outsideinradio.org. SUPPORT Outside/In is made possible with listener support. Click here to become a sustaining member of Outside/In. Follow Outside/In on Instagram or join our private discussion group on Facebook. LINKS Check out Gretchen Legler’s blog, where she writes about all sorts of nature and farm-inspired subjects, here. More on the work of Kianny Antigua can be found on her website. Listen to Sarah Lamagna’s interview for a previous episode of Outside/In, where she and Taylor talk about tricking kids into loving hiking. Interested in learning more about Aubrey Nelson's call for "more purposeful, real-world education?" You can contact her "Ecosystem of Educationeers" via this form. Listen to more musings from naturalist Dave Anderson on NHPR’s Something Wild. If you want to hear more of Nate’s music, check out “Snoweater on Bandcamp. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0	I'm Nate Hedji, and this is Outside In a show where curiosity in the natural world collide.
0:18.7	And tonight, we are recording in front of a live studio audience at 3S ArtSpace in
0:28.7	Portsmouth, New Hampshire.
0:29.6	And we are here to celebrate Outside In's 10th anniversary.
0:33.9	Now, if Outside In was a child, they'd be in like fourth or fifth grade, which I think is
0:38.9	totally fair for some of the humor that we have on the show.
0:42.7	Tonight we have a handful of generous folks who have agreed to share true stories on the theme
0:48.6	of metamorphosis. And the reason we chose this theme is because change is one of the only constants in nature.
0:56.5	But it's also one of the most essential ingredients in good storytelling.
1:01.2	Everybody in this audience has a story to tell about something that changed them in a fundamental way.
1:08.0	It could be falling in love, losing someone, discovering a passion. This is the stuff that
1:13.6	stories are made of. But change isn't just an ingredient in storytelling. It's also an outcome.
1:20.7	And as journalists, we believe in the power of a good story to change minds and maybe, very
1:26.7	occasionally, very occasionally, change the world.
1:30.3	I want to introduce our first storyteller tonight. Gretchen Legler is a farmer, gardener, teacher, writer, and lover of the natural world.
1:38.3	Her book, Woods Queer, crafting a sustainable rural life, has won multiple awards.
1:44.8	Gretchen is also the kind of person who can personally tell you, from experience,
1:49.2	why you should not put a tanned beaver hide into your washing machine.
1:54.0	Please welcome Gretchen.
1:59.1	It's one of the coldest weeks on record in Maine.
2:07.6	There's a nor'easter bearing down on us in the western mountains,
2:12.6	and two of our goats are about to give birth.
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