Hi, I'm Dr. Scott Hawn, and I want to welcome you to the Road to Amas, a podcast from the

St. Paul Center for biblical theology here in Steuonville, Ohio.

I am delighted to have as my guest for this episode, Joan Watson, who is the author of a brand

new book, Making a Pilgrimage, a Companion for Catholics. Welcome, Joan.

It's great to be here, Dr. Hahn. It's great to be back together. You were working with us

at the St. Paul Center, oh, at least about 15 years ago or so. Yeah, a little more. Okay.

We don't need to get into the details there, but you're a Christendom grad for your bachelor's degree,

but you got a master's degree here as well. Yeah. And you went to Rome for the Christendom campus. And you also went to Rome way back when we once had a Rome campus for grad students, too. That pulled me to Steubenville. It was one of the reasons Franciscan really drew me was I thought, I can go back to Rome. I probably should have just gone to Rome to study my master's,

but it was for that heart of the church study, right? So I got to study with you here and then

to go into the heart of the church at Rome. So I think that's set the stage for your own reflections

that you have put together in this remarkable book, making aimage, which we here at the St. Paul Center,

are honored and privileged to have published with Emmaus Road.

But besides your undergraduate studies at Christendom and your master's degree here,

you went on to Nashville for, what, 14 years or so.

Yeah, 15 years of working in the church there for the Nashville Dominicans and then for the diocese itself.

And then just stayed in Nashville working as a speaker and a writer before moving to South Bend to work at a pilgrimage company.

Yeah.

So you're no stranger to people who regularly visit the St. Paul Center because you do letters from home.

You've also done a course for our Amas Academy on the

parables. I did one on the parables and one on women in Scripture. That's right. Two courses on Amas

Academy. We are very grateful for that. You're now in Notre Dame, South Bend, correct?

South Bend working for a small pilgrimage company called Verso Ministries. And my whole job is formation, actually.

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