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🗓️ 25 July 2025
⏱️ 57 minutes
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0:00.0 | From KCRW, I'm Evan Kleinman and this is good food. |
0:06.2 | My mother was addicted to English muffins. |
0:09.9 | For her, each day that didn't start with a bagel, started with an English muffin, but only a Thomas's English muffin. |
0:17.9 | If I mistakenly bought another brand, I was sent back to the store to return |
0:22.1 | it and procure the correct brand. If I cut the muffin instead of pulling it apart, I never heard |
0:29.3 | the end of it. I had to hear a lecture on the nooks and crannies of the thing. She was in short |
0:35.2 | a Thomas's English muffin connoisseur. In a two-part episode of the Malcolm |
0:41.0 | Gladwell podcast, revisionist history, senior producer and occasional host Ben Nadav Haffrey |
0:47.0 | dives into the nooks and crannies of Thomas's English muffins and what happens when |
0:51.5 | that secret formula is threatened with exposure? |
0:55.5 | Hello. |
0:56.8 | Hi. |
0:57.7 | I'm very happy to hear that you have a long history of your own with Thomas's English muffins. |
1:03.1 | Oh, if my mother were alive, she would have been so thrilled to listen to this podcast. |
1:09.2 | I'm glad. |
1:10.5 | So tell us about Samuel Bath, and how he created what we now know as the English muffin. |
1:18.5 | Sure. |
1:19.0 | So not a ton is known about Samuel Bath Thomas, but the legend based on the sources that are available is that he came to the United States in 1874, moved to New York, where I believe he worked first for someone else's bakery, and then eventually had his own bakery. |
1:39.1 | And one of the things he made there was his classic English muffin, which was, it's a close relative of crumpets |
1:48.2 | or Welsh muffins. It's not like he invented the whole thing, but the thing that was really |
1:53.2 | distinctive about his unique English muffin product was the nooks and crannies, which have |
1:58.7 | since become a registered trademark of the various |
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