For years, you know, well into my, until I was 40, I kept thinking, okay, I'm going to do what women are supposed to do.

I'm going to get married and have children and live that life.

Just not right now.

So I just kept putting it off and putting it off and putting it off

and one day I realized I was happy.

And fortunately, the whole of feminism came along and said not everybody has to create the life that we really want and I want to help give you the tools to make that

happen. I'm Danica Patrick and I'm Pretty Intense.

Welcome to the pretty intense podcast. On the show today is Gloria Steinem.

Man, Gloria, an 85 year old icon.

She's a writer.

She almost has a, she says she's a hard time

pinning down exactly what her job is, but she's a writer, she's a feminist, she is a part of movements, and my goodness,

she has some interesting and sometimes very simple perspectives on something that were, I don't know, I think we all want an answer and sometimes the simple answer is not the one we want but sometimes but I think that that's what the

truth is and I'm not going to argue with someone that's 85 years old so she has a

hell of a lot more experience than I do so look we talked about life we talked about what's important we talked

about what the point of it is and I hope that you find this just as refreshing

as I did.

Thanks for coming Gloria. This is a really cool opportunity to talk to someone who has been so instrumental in leading the way by being strong with an opinion and not

falling into the norms, really,

which is the problem, the perpetuation of the problem

is that you just kind of go with the flow.

And so thank you for coming and being able to I could say and do say

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