Where we are today in technology means a company like GitHub or Microsoft needs to be as agile as a 10-person startup.

And that is quite hard because we're running a big ship at the speed of a really small boat.

The nature of the software that companies are going to ask for is also going to change.

We will see a commoditization of software that is so simple that recreating that on the fly will replace those SaaS services.

I think software developers are the first class of career where they start their day. it is so simple that recreating that on the fly will replace those SaaS services.

I think software developers are the first class of career where they start their day thinking,

how can I automate away the things I did last week? But also, they have moved up what I call the abstraction letter. All of a sudden with AI, we were able to get so much closer to how we're

actually thinking, the language

and the descriptions that we're thinking in. Isn't there a case that we've gone over the

hill to a point where we're going to be creating so much code so rapidly that it'll be less

inspectable for the human? Maybe it's you already past that point.

My guest today is Thomas Domker.

He is the CEO of GitHub.

GitHub needs no introduction.

It is the platform upon which nearly all modern software development happens.

And software development is being revolutionized by

artificial intelligence. Now, GitHub is part of Microsoft, and recently Microsoft CEO Satya Nadella

said about 30% of the code in some Microsoft project is written by AI.

This means that AI writes one line of code for every two lines of human rights.

But that ratio is going to change as AI gets better,

and some developers have told me their ratio is closer to four AI to one human.

When it reaches 100 AI lines of code, for every one human line of code, Thomas,

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