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FALL FAMILY SERIES: HONORING THOSE WHO SACRIFICE FOR US
GIOVANNI'S RING: MY LIFE INSIDE THE REAL SOPRANOS- 1001 Heroes Podcast Host Jon Hagadorn interviews retired undercover police/FBI agent Giovanni Rocco regarding his best-selling new book detailing his work to break up the most dangerous crime family in America- the sacrices he and his family made in the process, the stories-the incredible commitment he and others made and still make every day to fight crime- a GREAT story!
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Giovanni's Ring is the story of "Giovanni Rocco," a New Jersey police officer, known undercover as "Giovanni Gatto," who spent over twenty years in various undercover roles, penetrating biker gangs, drug cartels, white supremacist groups, and domestic and international terror groups. Most significantly, he was the mysterious agent at the epicenter of Operation Charlie Horse, a federal undercover operation that ultimately brought down ten members and associates of New Jersey's DeCavalcante Mafia family—the criminal organization otherwise known to law enforcement as "the real Sopranos."
Giovanni spent nearly three years working his way into the DeCavalcante hierarchy. He was so convincing in his role that capo Charlie "the Hat" Stango (also known as Charlie "Beeps") began to treat him as his "right hand." Over time, the personal relationship between the two men grew to a point where Charlie treated Giovanni more as a favored son than just an associate. Giovanni became so fully trusted that Stango went "on the record" for him with the family's administration and put him in charge of his own crew. Giovanni was permitted to attend meetings with other high-ranking members of the DeCavalcante crime family, as well as with senior members of New York's notorious Gambino, Genovese, and Lucchese Mafia families, and was authorized to speak on his capo's behalf. Each passing day became a roll of the dice for Giovanni, plaguing him with doubts: Is today the day my cover is blown? Is this the last day I see my wife and children? Will one of my deals between families or crews go bad and I'll get clipped? Is this all worth it?
Stango eventually assigned Giovanni the task of killing Luigi "the Dog" Oliveri, a troublesome made member of the crime family. That lethal assignment brought the undercover operation to an end in March 2015, and the resulting string of high-profile arrests eviscerated the criminal organization. In the course of the operation, Giovanni secretly recorded hundreds of conversations relating to a wide range of crimes including counterfeit and contraband goods trafficking, warehouse robberies, truck hijackings, and drug trafficking. Also, and importantly for his own safety, he learned that the DeCavalcante family had secured access to sensitive law enforcement information, including information about specific investigations into DeCavalcante members and associates.
Giovanni's Ring is not simply a chronicle of Giovanni Rocco's adventures in the murky and dangerous Mafia world he inhabited, but also a fascinating window into the psychological struggles that such a life inevitably entails. Whenever Giovanni returned to his real home and his real family, he needed to perform an invariable ritual: he parked in his driveway, removed his jeweled pinky ring, and dropped it in a cup holder, trying to drop the Gatto identity as well. Giovanni's Ring is a story that is by turns astonishing, electrifying, gut-wrenching, and always deeply human.
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| 0:00.0 | The Welcome back, everyone, the 1001 Heroes, Legends, Histories, and Mysteries podcast. |
| 0:39.4 | This is your host and storyteller, John Haggardorn. |
| 0:42.5 | Today, 1001 Heroes interviews Giovanni Rocco, as part of our fall family series, honoring the men and women who work in law enforcement, military, and his first responders, Giovanni Rocco. |
| 0:56.3 | That's the pen name of a remarkable American law enforcement officer who spent most of his |
| 1:00.9 | 26-year career as a member of state and federal task forces targeting organized crime. |
| 1:07.1 | He was given an opportunity to work in covert operations early in his career, and over time, |
| 1:12.5 | he undertook a number of undercover roles inside a wide range of criminal enterprises. |
| 1:17.6 | As effective as he was in those investigations, they pale beside the culminating role of his career, |
| 1:23.5 | the successful infiltration of one of America's most violent and long-standing mafia families. |
| 1:29.2 | That investigation was a long-term, deep-cover, undercover operation lasting two and a half years. |
| 1:37.1 | His primary assignment being to engage members and associates of Italian mafia families and gain their trust. |
| 1:44.0 | His primary target was New Jersey's |
| 1:46.0 | Decavalcante crime family, commonly referred to by FBI investigators as the real sopranos. |
| 1:53.3 | Rocco became so fully trusted by Charles Stango, one of Decavalcante's primary capos, that the latter |
| 1:59.1 | went on the record for him and put him in charge of his own |
| 2:02.1 | crew. He was permitted to attend meetings with other high-ranking members of the family, as well as |
| 2:07.6 | with senior members of other New York Mafia families, and to speak on his capo's behalf. It has been |
| 2:13.6 | nearly 40 years since any undercover operative has reached that level of acceptance in the |
| 2:19.0 | mob family. At the end of this landmark investigation, Giovanni retired from law enforcement, |
| 2:24.4 | and after a series of nerve-wracking missteps, an FBI threat assessment, enabled him to |
| 2:30.5 | finally move his family to a location that, for obvious reasons, will always remain undisclosed. |
| 2:37.6 | And now our interview with Giovanni Rocco, author of Giovanni's Ring, My Life Inside the Real Sopranos. |
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