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dot UK slash podcast to learn more. Standard issue for all women. Hello, hello. Welcome to a brand

new week at Standard Issue. Jen here to tell you all about today's podcast. But before I do,

here's what else we've got coming up this week. Tomorrow, Mick talks to Virginia Mendoza

about her new book, The Search for Water, A Human History of Thirst. On Wednesday, Johnny

5 is alive. Hannah and I will be rating or dating 1986's short circuit. Dated. And on Friday,

there is a brand new episode of Outside the Box for Your

Ears. But back to today, writer Gillian Best was inspired by her own experiences of

autoimmune disease to delve deeper into the topic of pain. What it is, how to treat it,

and the research being done around it to improve the lives of the 1.5 billion

people globally living with chronic pain. This became the basis of her new book, Chronic, Understanding

Pain. I caught up with Gillian to chat about the book, Chronic Pain, How to Navigate It,

and the fascinating and infuriating ways in which women are impacted differently by it.

I love chatting to Gillian and I hope you enjoy listening.

I am joined by Gillian Best, philanthropy writer at University College London,

an author of new book, Chronic Understanding Pain.

Gillian, thanks very much for joining us.

Pleasure. Thanks for having me.

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