All right, guys, I'm joined again by another episode of the Wayne N podcast by my man,

Gilbert Derino Burns, man. It's so glad to see you. I'm so glad to see your face, man. Wrapping up a great MMA career and, you know, and I don't know if many people know this, we were supposed to fight it one time, right? We were supposed to fight it one time. You know, you said some pretty mean things about me, but I forgive you. I forgive you. I get it.

I get it.

He's on the past.

But my man, I forgive you. I forgive you. I get it. I get it. He's on the past. He's on the past. But my man, I appreciate you coming on. Again, this is the second time we've had you on. And I said, like, we were talking off screen. I go, last time the energy level was a little down. But you were like a week and a half, I think two weeks before your fight. So I get it. But man, you came on this time right now. We were just chat before. Big smile, energy level up, not having to worry about it all. You're doing grappling the UFC BJJ number nine, June 4th at the apex. I mean, talk to me. Tell me how you feel because you're not having to train like full MMA wrestling, or you will train

wrestling, but the punching, the kicking, all the other stuff. How are you feeling right now?

No, I feel great right now, you know, I think it was a little bit of release too.

The UFC is a lot of pressure. You've got to perform.

He's not as easy, you know, so you really got to perform and train super hard and then I love to

train I love to push myself it's not that I'm not doing right now I'm doing but the level

of stress the level of go just not getting heat in the face is all nice not having to

sport and I especially the way I do I want to do the highest level so I

got to the jeans freaking Jason Jackson Camaro Usman such a yeah yeah yeah there's no easy

rounds we talk about all the time no easy rounds not at all and in grappling even let's say let's

let's change you to grappling if it's not your your day, you might tap a couple times, things are not going, and it's okay. You know, you know, you're not getting beat up home. You're going to get a little, but. Get a little carpal tunnel in the wrist, right? From tapping a little bit more, notting, but you know what, next day you feel good, no pressure. Okay, let's go back

and do it. Yeah, let's do it again. So it's kind of like it's easier. I wish, honestly right now, I wish I had a little bit more time to get my jih T2 even more sharp. But when the opportunity show up, I say, yes, I love it. Let's go, you know? Yeah. Look, I think when people, people don't understand is that when fighting right you're going to take damage like real

damage to your brain, to your body. There's a lot more pressure than just accepting a match or a fight. In jiu-jitsu, sure, you can get hurt. You can get hurt just by rolling on the ground with your partners, you know, training, or you can get hurt in a real match where someone catches you in the leg locker, arm bar, and whatever it is. But you have an

opportunity to tap and get out of

there in fighting right you get knocked out you can get hit with something you didn't see coming

those moments there's a lot more pressure on taking real real trauma and real damage to your body

yeah even mentally to accept that you might get hurt. Like you gotta go mentally to a state.

They say, okay, I might get hurt.

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