Welcome back to another edition of the Friday

podcast. Today I am joined by golf course architect Gil Hans. This is another

two-part podcast. Part two will be available on Tuesday night. Without further ado, here's Gilhance.

I'm Miss Agreen, for example. I'm already upset. When I find my ball in the bunker, I'm really upset.

And when I find my ball in a fried egg.

Fried egg. Fried egg.

Fried egg lie, I'm about ready to run off the golf course. I'm about ready to run off the golf course. Oh, I'm wondering your noted deadhead has music had a impact on your career?

Yeah, I think, I mean, when you're in a machine, you're basically focusing on what you're

building and I'm, I've always loved music of my

first dead show was at Madison Square Garden in 1979 I was 15 years old so it was one of those things, you know, when you kind of get turned

on to that scene and that vibe and that music and it just, I've always enjoyed it. I don't have a musical bone in my body. I couldn't play an instrument or carry a tune to save my life, but I just have always enjoyed music and I think that that sort of jam band, I mean I love Dave Matthews. I never got into into Fish I think you know it was being a deadhead it was just that was sort of I don't know you look at it as a younger version of what we were going through so but I think that that improvisation and just that kind of one guy

riffing off the next guy and another guy picks it up and they go and it's just the

music the creativity the, the sort of how it all comes together when it's not scripted.

I really enjoy that and I think that that's somewhat of a metaphor for how we work.

I mean, all of our guys, we just spend time editing

and refining each other's work and trying to make things better.

And so there's a contribution that, you know, I generally set sort of the bigger scale and the stage for

depth and scale of bunkers and greens and then Jim will come along Jim Wagner my partner and he'll start monkey in with an excavator or it's one of our

other one of the cavemen will get involved and then it we call it the theory of

ever decreasing implements where we start off big scale go to a mini X and then

eventually wind up with rakes and shovels and so I think that they're you know just

that feeling of of creativity that just sort of you know things that the flow out of the moment

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