Welcome to part two of our interview with Steve Asher regarding the Kentucky State Penitentiary.

One of the most common ways that people get paranormal activity to stop that we've learned over doing thousands of episodes is just simply speaking to it like you would another human.

And quite often the other entity reacts the same way they would as if they were still alive.

How much would you categorize, and I don't know if you want to put a number on it or how you would quantify it,

but how much of the activity there would you say is of a residual nature, where it's just things replaying and repeating themselves over and over and how

much of it is literally conscious entities that are still roaming the halls and the cells?

I would say overall, I mean, the in and out daily little things like shadows and, you know,

whatever somebody whistling in the cell that's not there,

I kind of think, I think that's residual.

I think overwhelmingly residual.

Do I think that there are things that are intelligent, be it a conscious entity or on some level being able to respond to you?

Yeah, maybe 10%, which is enough.

You know, that's, which is fairly high considering the amount of activity that's been reported there,

and it's still being reported there.

I've got, you know, after I wrote the callings of the Texas State Penitentiary, which was book one,

and the follow-up, which was about Western State, I had gotten so many people coming to signing some things, and go, you know,

I like the book, but why didn't you talk about receiver's basement, or why didn't you ever

write anything about Kelly Moss, which is one of the most famous girls there? He was executed. He had supposedly bludgeoned his father-in-law. He was kind of a wild, you know, hazy, drunk guy, bludgeoned his father-in-law. But he swore up and down, he didn't do it. And going to the chair, he said, I didn't do it. You know I didn't do it? He said, I swear to God, I'm going to haunt you to the blast brick falls in this place.

And, and going to the chair. He said, I didn't do it. You know I didn't do it. He said, I swear to God, I'm going to haunt you. I took the blast brick falls in this place. And people started reporting within a few months, you know, that they started seeing them, which I had some people go, well, well, if it was him, you know, why didn't you just show up right then? Or what did it take three months? I don't know. I don't know how long it takes for your ghost papers to go through. How would I know? You know, I don't know, ask him. But you started having

people saying that they would see them outside the death house. And most of what they saw was kind of mischievous.

They would kind of say like they would hear something tapping on the roof,

almost like a squirrel or something or acorns hitting the roof.

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