GGCH: Epstein Files & Hitler’s DNA (#362)

Religion on the Mind

Religion & Spirituality, Religion, Spirituality

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🗓️ 20 November 2025

⏱️ 36 minutes

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We’re back with another Generation Gap Culture Hour featuring myself, Tony Jones and Josh Gilbert all representing our different generational viewpoints. As is our regular dynamic, this one kicks off with Tony disagreeing with something I say. We quickly get into discussing whether genetic analysis of historical figures like Hitler (yes, they sequenced his DNA from blood on a couch) actually tells us anything meaningful. Tony is skeptical, but I think the connection between genetics and legacy is fascinating in how it informs our understanding of nature versus nurture. We debate about whether or not the word "pedophile" is being misused in coverage of the Epstein files, and why precision in language matters even when discussing despicable people. We cleanse our palates with meditative bushcraft videos served up by my five-year-old’s YouTube algorithm. In the Patreon-only second half we finish our discussion on the re-emergence of "pedophile" into public discourse, debate whether modern guys are too self-conscious about nudity in locker rooms (with Tony lamenting his gym now requires swimsuits in the hot tub), and I somehow end up moderating while Tony and Josh argue about whether co-ed locker rooms would have more or fewer social norms. ___________________________________________ Follow Dan on IG: www.instagram.com/dancoke/ Or Twitter: twitter.com/DanKoch Faith deconstruction resources: www.soyouredeconstructing.com/ Join the Patreon for exclusive episodes (and more) every month: patreon.com/dankoch Email about the "sliding scale" for the Patreon: youhavepermissionpodcast@gmail.com YHP Patron-only FB group: tinyurl.com/ycvbbf98 Website: www.dankochwords.com/yhp.html Join Dan's email list: www.dankochwords.com/ Artwork by sprungle.co/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0	Welcome, everybody to Religion on the Mind and Josh and Tony, you will now bear witness to my rolling out of version 1.0 of the new introductory text to religion on the mind.
0:24.6	Okay?
0:25.2	So you can give me your unvarnished, like I need to tell you, Tony, to give it unvarnished.
0:30.1	Feedback.
0:32.2	Please, actually, Tony, could you add some varnish?
0:34.6	And Josh, your feedback, unvarnished would be preferable. Thanks.
0:39.0	Okay, here's version 1.0. Welcome everybody to Religion on the Mind, a conversation show about
0:47.0	psychology, religion, and spirituality that values careful thinking and good faith engagement
0:52.8	over self-satisfied tribalism.
0:55.5	I'm your host, Dr. Dan Koch, licensed therapist and researcher.
1:00.2	Da-da-da-da-da-da. Okay, thoughts?
1:03.1	What did you, what was it? What did you say about conversation? It should be conversational,
1:07.5	because you're using it as an adjective. All right. Well, the big picture, the big picture, which is a very popular movie podcast, calls themselves a conversation show.
1:19.5	So that's where I got it.
1:20.4	Now maybe you say that doesn't really.
1:22.7	That's two nouns.
1:23.6	You're just being like, I'm a noun noun.
1:26.7	You know what?
1:27.4	You ask for feedback. It's a 6-7 parasycial paramenopause show. You're just being like, I'm a noun, noun. You know what?
1:28.6	You ask for feedback. It's a 6-7 parasycial paramenopause show.
1:32.1	I'm just grabbing as many new Webster.
1:34.2	Okay, tell me this.
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