Hey everybody, welcome to the writing room.

We're so glad that you're here and I'm with Kim Stewart.

Hi, Kimberly.

Hi, Bob.

So good to be back.

It's so lovely to be here today.

Here we are.

A year forever from our first meeting

so many years ago at the soundboard to say, we're going to be friends. And then that turned

into like a zillion writing workshops and it turned into this podcast. And I just love working

together to talk writing for people who are listening in, whether

you're stuck in traffic or out on a jog, you're in this in psychology they call it pre-contemplation

like you're thinking about it. We want to give you a nudge. Why do you what you're doing?

Kim, why is like helping people with writing that blows your hair back?

I think that story changes everything. I really do. The longer we're at this, Bob, we get to hear so many people's stories. We share our own stories. And I don't think people need more bullet point lists. I don't think they need more information. We're in a time where we have more information than we've ever needed.

But stories change the air in the room.

And so that's what excites me about being a writer and about seeing other people tackle this very weird job.

To see their stories in print.

My own grandmother, I just found this. I've got to show it to you sometime. She wrote a book. And I didn't know it. She bound it. It's like, you know, like a kinko's binding. And I found it in an old box and I thought, oh my gosh, I can't wait to read this because no one will be able to say her story

like she said her story. And I think that's what we're up to. We talk about that a lot at the

oaks that if you don't write your story, who will? So it's a pain in the tisher, guys. It takes a while.

And today we're going to talk about how to get unstuck. You mentioned being stuck in traffic, Bob.

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