Hello and welcome to the Scriptures A Real podcast.

This is the podcast where we talk about things that have made the scriptures become very real to us because we think there's real power in the scriptures.

I'm your host, Kerry Mealstein, and we have a very special guest with us today because this is our special Easter week podcast where the things we study for Come Follow Me this week are all

send it on an Easter theme. And I feel so blessed and so privileged to live in the same

ward with Melanie and Roger Hoffman, who I have been able to learn are the epitome of what

it means to be a Christian, just the best people ever.

And I'm especially excited to talk to Melanie today, who is the, and you'll have to tell

me if I say this correctly, but composer and writer of the lyrics, I don't know what the

right terminology is for the primary song, Gethsemini, which is a song that has really deeply touched my family.

And we are in love with and the lyrics to what I find are so powerful.

So welcome, Melanie.

Well, thank you.

And is it okay that I say that you are also, I'm privileged to have you as our bishop.

So very... Well, you say that now are also, I'm privileged to have you as our bishop. So very.

Well, you say that now.

Just at some point you'll say, you'll curse together that day.

But anyway, but anyway, Melanie, just tell us a little bit about yourself.

Well, Roger and I have been in the music business for about, well, as long as

we've been married, which is a long time, 40 years. And very early in our marriage, we decided that we

were going to go, we were going to leave our regular employment and start to write music to build the kingdom. So that was

kind of a mighty leap of faith. And it's been an exciting journey ever since. And so that's what

we've been doing. We have a home studio and we write music. Ah, so you, you are someone who actually

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