So welcome back to the guest episode, and we're here with Natalie.

And her name is Natalie Kusa, and she's a podcast tour strategist.

And she helps her clients become the only choice in their industry by, get this, going on a podcast tour.

And if you're like, Kwejo, what is this episode?

This episode was birthed out of my desire to really get to know the other cool online course creators and online business owners that are guests on this podcast.

Because what happens is we show up as guests with our strategies, but you, the listener, only know us for our strategies.

And it's like just one way or just one dimensional kind of transactional relationship.

And we don't get a chance to talk about our likes and our hopes and our desires and the things

that we don't like or even get to know each other.

And I had one lady who told me that she thought, like she just had felt like it was taboo to talk about her family.

And I'm like, oh gosh, no, no.

We're going to have an episode where we get to know,

where I get to know you, Natalie, and you get to know me.

And the listener gets to know both of us.

Sound good?

I love it.

Yeah, let's dive in.

I love it. Yeah, let's dive in. I love the idea. Yay. Awesome, awesome. Listener, if my voice is still

new to you, why, I'm the new host of the Art of Online Business podcast. And if you want to find out

where Rick went and where I came from and why I'm here now, head to the show notes below.

And there's two episodes there and you can go and get that information.

But what won't change or what will stay the same is this, the art of online business,

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