Welcome to The Spectator podcast. I'm Isabel Hardman. On this week's episode, we'll be looking at the runners and riders in the Tory leadership race, the latest development in the Trump-Russia Bruhaha, and the British woman who might be about to win Wimbledon. First up, speculation about who might be the next Prime Minister has abounded in Westminster

since Theresa May's disastrous election showing last month, and as her potential successes start to put

feelers out, we are already seeing an attempt to block the route of a certain flaxen-haired former

editor of this magazine. The Stop Boris campaign is in full swing, says James Forsyth in the magazine this week,

and he joins me now, along with Harry Mount, to discuss an increasingly bitter contest.

So James, you write in your piece this week about the plots against Boris ahead of a Tory

leadership contest. When do you expect that leadership contest to take place? I think all of us

slightly more wary of making

predictions than we used to be. The default answer to when she goes, when she's May goes,

is the end of the, when the Article 50 deal is done. So sometime between autumn 2018 and March

2019. But in the last couple of days, I've definitely picked up more concern among the party

hierarchy of it, that she can't make it that long,

but that is simply too long a slog for her to go on for. I think the sensible thing for her to do

would be at conference to announce a timetable of when she's going to leave. I think that would

buy her some time. People say, oh, that weakens a prime minister's position. Well, her position's

already pretty weak. And I think it would put the burden of proof onto those who want to get rid of her sooner rather than later. Harry, why are people plotting against Boris? You're a

great Boris fan. Can you see that they have a point? They've always been, a lot of MPs, have always

been very envious of him, I think, his fame. He's, you know, the one MP that transcends the House of Commons to become a sort of

celeb, their envious of that. And then quite a lot of the time, when he was edited to the

spectator, MPs would submit their staggeringly boring pieces on, you know, wither the

euro, and they were amazed that their piece didn't get in. So part of it was envy. I think also,

as James says in his excellent piece,

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