Dale Serancho, here we go. Hey, JV, sitting in both running the control room and with me.

And Jake's running late.

Should be here at some point.

He'll pop in.

But we'll get crack-a-lackin, get started.

Interesting.

You guys had an interesting thing.

I'm glad you and Jake both got into this

kind of education related things this week but but with broader some broader societal

kind of take so the first one let's pull up that Daniel Markovitz piece I don't know if that

was you or who pulled that you or Jake I think I think it was Jake. Yeah. Interesting. So I'll just set this up. This guy, Daniel Markovitz,

for those who don't know, he's, he might be the very definition of, I don't know what,

what wokeists would call privilege and all that, but he and I are the same age. Markovits is 55, born same year in 69.

And this is his presentation, kind of the last piece, his summary of his argument, on the subject, the way they do it at the Oxford debate club.

And by the way, like I said, Markovits says he got

his, he was summa cum laude as an undergrad at Yale. And he got his degree in mathematics. Then he

went, he eventually went to Yale Law School. He and I are also contemporaries in that he graduated

from law school a year after I did. So he graduated in 2000 from Yale Law School.

Again, summa cum laude, whatever.

He's, but he's been, he's kind of become famous for this thing he's got going on meritocracy.

He says meritocracy is a sham.

And anyway, this is his, the kind of closing of his argument before the Oxford Union.

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