Hey folks, this is Abel James and thanks so much for joining us on the Fat Burning Man

show where we talk about real food and real results.

Have you ever tried going vegan?

I have.

Whether you're 100% plant-based or a die-hard carnivore, there's a great deal that we all

can learn from each other.

And I'm honored to talk today with my friend, Jeff Palmer, founder and CEO of Clean Machine

and all natural vegan sports nutrition company.

Jeff is a master when it comes to packing on muscle safely and naturally, with four awards

in natural bodybuilding competitions and nearly 30 years of experience in the natural foods

and supplements industry, Jeff is the real deal.

We're going to be talking about natural bodybuilding, gut health, the vegan diet, the surprising

benefits of certain types of weeds, testosterone, adaptogens and a whole lot more.

But before we get there, here's a quick note that came in from Devon.

He says, I'm Abel, I've read the book and I've been cooking things from it here and there.

Right now my fiance is struggling with the typical diet means cut everything good out

and limit calories to almost nothing mentality.

I bought her a copy of the wild diet and I'm trying to get her to read it with her busy

schedule to try to help explain what I believe makes way more sense.

My issue is time and stress like most people I'm sure.

Very busy at work right now, extra hours, lack of motivation to cook and grocery shop after

work.

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