Hello and welcome to Ways to Change the World. I'm Krishnam Gurumurthy and this is the podcast

in which we talk to extraordinary people about the big ideas and their lives and the events

that have helped shape them. My guest this week is the comedian, writer, activist of sorts,

Jeff Norcott. Jeff identifies as a conservative comedian. A lot of ideas that come out of what you

would call woke thought seem unusual to me. It takes me a while to get my head around them,

but I don't discount anything, you know, out of hand. But there's a lot more to Jeff beyond

simple party politics and we want to explore his journey from his childhood, which was not at all

a conservative environment, to where he is today. Really quite an important part of the

comedic culture war. Jeff, welcome to the podcast. It's good to be. I've never been called an activist

before. That made me feel very young. Well, the kind of in a way you are aren't you because you,

I mean, you clearly identify your politics and have done for years. Yeah, I suppose it,

what I've benefited from in comedy is it's the radical act of doing something very common.

I'll be very lucky because I'm a really middle of the road bloke, you know what I mean? I live in

the southeast. I vote you're conservative and I voted leave. And just just because of the

context that I work in, comedy not being those things, I get to be a non-edgy guy. I mean, really

very boring person. But in the world of comedy, always this edge lord with his radical take some

things. I mean, what I would say about the politics is that I've repeatedly alluded to this.

It's always been a lean one way. I think that's true of most people's politics. I think I am

sort of on balance a conservative vote and naturally most of the time. But I'm one of those people,

it's not sort of Tory for life. You know, they've got, they've got a pitch for my business every time.

So you could switch? Well, I didn't vote conservative at the local elections that just went.

I just, I spoke my ballot paper, so which was a combination of a lot of things. It was put

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