Hello and welcome to ways to change the world. I'm Krishnam Girimurthy and this is the

podcast in which we talk to extraordinary people about the big ideas and their lives

and the events that have helped shape them. This is unusual this week because we are on

location near the top of the Aslan Middle Orbit Tower in the Olympic Park, which I haven't

been to for over ten years and we've got an amazing view across London and our guest

today is one of the founders of the UK, Grime and Rapsin, Lethal Bizzle. He's had different

incarnations as Lethal B. His real name of course is Maxwell Ousu Ansar. And just over there

we can look out to Stratford and so what does this area mean to you?

This area was like my musical school. This actual building we're actually sitting in used to be

the Pirate Radio Station where basically I started my career and there was also a nightclub

underneath it and that was where we used to do our under 18 raves. So this is basically the

development of me becoming the musician I am today. So that's why I picked it because I actually

haven't been here since then and it was like when you said do you want to interview me,

have a lot of locations I was like yeah let's go back home and I dealt with it too far from

my from Wolfenstein originally so that's like five to ten minutes from here. But yeah this this

this area is very important. It's very important to my generation as well. I've noticed that

this is your art school cano, the wildies, the skeptics, the Jamie. This is this was basically our

Brit school. This is where we learn our skills and we didn't realize at the time we were just having

fun you know coming radio every day and doing events on the ground on day in parties but then

there'd be no there was actually training for the bigger picture. What why was there so much talent

here? Good question. One thing I would say is I was lucky to live in East London because

all the gatekeepers like I said a lot of talent was all around surrounded with each other

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