One summer, we decided to throw a party for our magazines in the mid-1990s.

Wizard was doing about 400,000 copies at the time, just in English, 75 countries, a dozen languages.

And then all of a sudden, we started an event called Comic-Con and 20,000 people showed up.

And that changed everything.

Good morning, Avery.

How are you doing?

I am great for wrapping up 2024.

It is wonderful to see you, Sam.

How are you doing?

I am feeling very all over the place.

End of years is always such a challenging time.

But I'm excited for a little bit of a downtime and then a crazy 2025. Next show, we're going to focus on some predictions and

wrap-ups for the year. We have a great show this year. And then we have a couple stories I wanted to

ask you about, are you ready? I am so ready. Let's drive in. All right. So,very, this week we did have the launch of Pengu, the Pudgy Penguins token.

A lot of folks are talking about this is like one of the larger openings for retail to get

into the crypto space because everyone from Pudgy Penguins holders, little Pudgies holders, but also anyone who bought the toys was also eligible to claim.

In addition, people who had traded on Solana or traded on Ethereum in the NFT space also got a little bit of an allocation.

So it seemed to be kind of a really open for all opportunity

to bring folks into the tokenization scheme. The other thing is the Pudgee's team,

Igloo, which is the group behind them, are launching a chain called Abstract, which is coming

out, I believe in January. So I think they're trying to play this kind of robust three-pronged attached. We have a chain called Abstract, which is coming out, I believe in January. So I think they're

trying to play this kind of robust three-pronged attached. We have a chain, we have a token,

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