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🗓️ 28 December 2022
⏱️ 33 minutes
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0:00.0 | Welcome to Nobody Told Me. I'm Jan Black. And I'm Laura Owens. Have you ever heard the term emotional labor? You're about to hear it a lot as we talk with our guest |
0:22.2 | journalist Gemma Hartley, whose new book is called Fed Up, Emotional Labor, Women, and the Way Forward. |
0:29.6 | Gemma, thank you so much for joining us today. We are so excited to have this conversation with you. |
0:35.6 | Yeah, thank you for having me. Talk to us about that first viral article |
0:40.1 | that started at all. It was called Women Aren't Nags, were just fed up. Yes. So I had pitched that |
0:49.2 | article and had no idea that it would have that kind of a reach. |
0:55.3 | And it was the first, like, even remotely negative thing I'd ever written about my relationship and my husband. |
1:01.9 | So I'm like, oh, you know, welcome to my world. |
1:05.4 | A million people have, you know, seen your Mother's Day mess up. |
1:10.4 | Right, right. |
1:13.1 | Yeah. |
1:14.2 | And I was just blown away at the response because I had just really started thinking about |
1:22.5 | emotional labor and everything that goes into that invisible work that women do to keep everyone around them on track and comfortable. |
1:32.1 | And I didn't think it would have that broad of a reach. |
1:36.5 | And so when it did, I was so excited to get the opportunity to write a whole book on it. |
1:43.1 | Well, tell us more about what that term emotional labor really means. |
1:48.1 | So every woman I know does emotional labor, whether she knows the term or not. It's all of the |
1:56.5 | invisible work that we do to keep everyone on track and also keep them comfortable in the |
2:02.2 | process. Planning the holidays, scheduling playdates, doing all of the emotion work with your kids |
2:10.4 | so they don't, you know, melt down and throw tantrums, making sure that we're using the right |
2:16.7 | tone when we're asking for something, sending reminders |
2:21.2 | to our partners to do their half of the chores. |
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