Hello, my name is Jason Fryer, and I am joined, as always, by Kirk Hamilton.

You are indeed, hello.

And we are still here at GDC.

This time, we are joined by Chris Hecker, the developer of Spy Party.

Yes.

Hello, Chris.

Hello, everyone.

The longest, so I was just saying before we recorded that there were always these games

that would just pop up at IGF and at every single packs.

And it was The Witness and Fez and Monica was one of them.

And there were a couple others and then Spy Party.

And I think Spy Party is the only one that hasn't come out yet.

Okay, so just to be fair, like Miyaka Curry is often in that list and he hasn't come out yet.

Oh yeah, yeah, that's fair. Okay. So I have at the ready of the list of other games that have shipped.

I'm sure you do. Just to defend against this question. Right on top of, yeah. So Spores shipped in 2008. Okay. And then I worked on it for another year, which we can talk about it or not, whichever.

I mean, I've talked about that a bunch before.

But so, and then I told them I wasn't going to work on another game there.

I would work on technology, but I wouldn't want to make, it was a creatively interesting project.

Yes.

So I was working on stuff like the Sporepedia back end and just doing hard technical problems and stuff, but like, EA makes games. So I got the boot and like it made me actually go, I'm going to do the spy party thing full time because it really happened. So if you want to really make this look like a bad question.

Oh boy. Sure. So that would be just at the end of 2009 to now, which is eight, you know, almost nine.

Right. Yeah. So eight years now, but it'll be nine at the end of 2018. Yes. Spy Party the game was created in an indie game jam like four years before that.

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