Hey everyone, you'll enjoy this one. I was on G.B. News again this morning on a short item with Beverly Turner, and we had a discussion on the proofs around lockdown or mask effectiveness or ineffectiveness. So I think it was a great little piece. I really hope you enjoy it. And remember, GB News are offcom regulated, not mega

mainstream, but certainly mainstream news. And of course, as always, we referred to OECD and government

data and made sure we didn't stray at all into problematic areas. And yet still, I think our discussion had some great revelations.

So enjoy. There is no better man to talk to about exactly where we are at now than this next

guest. He's so good, in fact, that I'm awarding him this week's Turner Prize, which only goes to

people who have used facts and data rather than emotion to

assess the situation, particularly in relation to COVID and our freedoms, which we must not lose.

So I am very delighted to welcome Iva Cummings to the show with a man with almost quarter of a million

subscribers on YouTube. He makes it his mission to decode

the science. Good morning to you, Iva. Thank you so much for joining me. Right. We were all

talking. There's a lot of New Year, okay, the weather is cold again. The hospitals are getting

busy. People are starting to get worried about COVID. And of course, there are those in positions

of power and those who are

not in position of power, considering whether we would need another lockdown again, whether we should

be wearing masks. What did you conclude this week? Right, Beth. Thanks. Great to be here. So as always,

nearly three years now, I share the data and I share my inference and I go through it. And that's all. And no one has ever

countered me successfully for what it's worth. So the other day I did a video, I decided to revisit

Sweden and I went through Professor Carl Popper. Now, I won't get too heavy here, but Professor

Carl Popper was a hero of scientific and logical inference.

And basically he had the Black Swan hypothesis, judgment, logic. So the asymmetry of proof.

So essentially, if you take the hypothesis that lockdowns and masks are effective, well, Sweden

destroys that hypothesis single-handedly.

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