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GAZA: WHERE FOR REFUGE? JONATHAN SCHANZER, FDD

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🗓️ 21 May 2025

⏱️ 11 minutes

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GAZA: WHERE FOR REFUGE? JONATHAN SCHANZER, FDD
1917 GAZA

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0:00.0

This is CBS Eye on the World.

0:08.5

Here's John Batchelor.

0:11.7

Gaza, the headline from London, Pink Paper, Financial Times.

0:17.1

UK halt straight talks with Israel over Gaza offensive.

0:21.4

Subhead, Israeli opposition leader Yair Golan says country risks becoming, quote,

0:28.2

pariah state amid mounting international criticism.

0:33.1

I welcome Jonathan Shanzer, the executive director of the Foundation for the Defense of Democracies,

0:38.9

to comment on what appears to be information war underway out of Europe after all these years,

0:47.0

and the information war is directed at Israel, not at Hamas, not at the enablers of Hamas and their legion, not at Iran, but at Israel,

0:57.7

for seeking to re-secure the hostages, dead or alive, and seal up what looks to be an open

1:05.3

wound in the Ngev. Jonathan, a very good evening to you. We'll stay away from facts. We'll just stay with

1:13.1

prejudice right now. What's coming out of Europe, listening to the Financial Times headlines

1:20.0

this morning, reading the news here and around the world, is that it appears that foreign

1:26.2

ministers who we could name, but there's no reason to,

1:29.5

have decided to make phone calls and decide this is the moment to say Israel is overstepping

1:35.9

its writ to defend itself. Is this a surprise, Jonathan, or has this come up before when

1:42.3

Israel is pressing an attack in a war? Well, it's something of a surprise, Jonathan, or has this come up before when Israel is pressing an attack in a war?

1:45.7

Well, it's something of a surprise, John. I think part of this has to do with the fact that

1:50.5

under the Biden administration, the U.S. was taking the lead in pressing Israel to end the

1:57.1

conflict. Donald Trump has not exactly adopted that position. And so I think what we see

2:03.5

right now are Europeans coming out, perhaps even as a way of challenging Donald Trump. So you've got

2:09.4

the French and the Brits and also the Canadians. So these are all countries that right now

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