GAZA: SIX MORE MONTHS OF NEGOTIATION, JONATHAN SCHANZER
The John Batchelor Show
John Batchelor
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🗓️ 23 July 2025
⏱️ 7 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | I'm John Batchel with my colleague Jonathan Shanzer, Executive Director of the Foundation for the Defense of Democracies, Gaza. |
| 0:09.4 | The reports are worthless because the Hamas voices dominate all official reporting out of Gaza. |
| 0:18.9 | However, we know the hostages remain unavailable and the |
| 0:24.2 | negotiations are non-transparent. At the same time, Israel continues a chase of what remains of the |
| 0:31.0 | Hamas and there is no definite end of this conflict claiming that there's a ceasefire now seems fantastic. I read the headline |
| 0:40.0 | earlier of 28 countries condemning Israel for what is called the drip feeding of aid, using a metaphor |
| 0:46.0 | from medical attention to a dying patient. However, all of that reporting is influenced by |
| 0:52.4 | Hamas. Jonathan, the puzzle about Gaza is, is there a ceasefire? |
| 0:58.1 | Is there an end to this? |
| 1:00.0 | Who calls the last day of shooting? |
| 1:04.0 | Is it Jerusalem? |
| 1:05.7 | Is it Doha? |
| 1:07.5 | Is it Washington? |
| 1:08.9 | Who's in charge? |
| 1:10.0 | Is there anyone in charge? Well, it's a committee, John. And |
| 1:13.5 | when there's a committee, it usually means that no one is in charge. And I would argue that right now, |
| 1:18.3 | it's probably Cairo, Doha, the United States, and Israel all working to arrive at a final |
| 1:27.0 | status or arrangement that I just don't see happening anytime soon. |
| 1:30.7 | Look, what we're hearing right now is that Donald Trump feels optimistic that there could be a deal |
| 1:35.5 | that sees the return of 10 live hostages as well as 18 dead that would leave for another |
| 1:44.0 | round of negotiations, yet another 10 Israelis |
| 1:47.7 | that are alive and then yet another 12 Israelis that are dead. |
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