This is CBSI on the world. I'm John Batchelor, welcoming my colleague, Professor Richard Epstein.

He teaches law at NYU in the University of Chicago and the Civitas Institute at the University of Texas.

Very much welcomes Richard's essays, and I recommend you go there and read his latest thoughts,

mostly about the court, but also about a moving story in the Middle East called the War on Hamas.

We come to a headline that connects to all this, and having talked to Israel these last days,

very much resonant to the Israeli opinion of

what must be done about Gaza. However, this is the president of the United States speaking.

Wall Street Journal. Trump says he wants to, quote, clean out Gaza, send refugees to Egypt and

Jordan. The president said he told King Abdullah II of Jordan

in a phone call that he wants the monarch's country to receive Palestinians. He said he expected

to make a similar request of Egypt's president, Abdul Fata al-Sisi. Richard, a very good evening to you.

At first I thought, well, that's taboo.

And then when I talked to Israel more than once, I saw that this was always a part of the

story that Egypt and Jordan, Jordan's two-thirds Palestinian now, and Egypt has to acknowledge the fact that the Ghazans are Egyptian citizens.

And until a war in the 20th century, Gaza was an Egyptian territory.

And one of the obvious tragedies of this last year plus in the Gaza war is that Egypt wouldn't open the rafa gate and let the women

and children out who were always vulnerable to being used as human shields, which the Hamas counted on.

That's why they maintain a million and a half people there completely on subsistence from outside organizations.

It's not a money-making outfit.

Now, that is all commonplace information in Israel, especially in the think tanks I talk to.

It is not commonplace understanding here.

Do you believe that the president's remarks will now inform Americans that there is a

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