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🗓️ 14 February 2023
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A decade after the Commons voted to introduce civil marriage for same-sex couples, Patrick Maguire looks back at a moment of change for the country and the Conservative Party with former MP Matthew Parris, former culture secretary Dame Maria Miller and former equalities minister Baroness Featherstone.
Columnists Robert Colvile and Dorothy Byrne consider whether the Brexit summit at Ditchley Park was an innocent meeting of minds or remainer skulduggery.
Plus Patrick is joined by historian Andrew Lownie to imagine what might have happened if Edward VIII hadn't abdicated.
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0:00.0 | Hello, you're listening to the Times Red Box Politics podcast. I'm Pasha McGuire still in for Matt Chouly. |
0:06.0 | Today, we're marking 10 years since Parliament voted for gay marriage. We'll be speaking to Matthew, Paris, Maria Miller and Liv Feathersson about that in just a moment. |
0:15.0 | But first, it's time for our columnist panel. |
0:17.0 | The columnist on Times Radio. |
0:21.0 | Yes, time for our all-star columnist panel. I'm joined today by the Sunday Times' Robert Colville Morning Robert. |
0:26.0 | Morning. |
0:27.0 | And Dorothy Burns, she's a journalist and president of Murray Edwards College, Cambridge. Morning Dorothy. |
0:32.0 | Morning. |
0:33.0 | How are you both doing? Robert, how are you doing? |
0:36.0 | I'm great. It's half-term, so obviously I couldn't be happy to have my children around me. |
0:41.0 | Half-term, I'll also Robert Eureka pipe as well, so you must have enjoyed last night. |
0:45.0 | It's nice that we play as one again. I mean, I'm, you know, can't complain. |
0:51.0 | No, no, we can win a few more. Good to be back. Good to have heavy metal football back. Dorothy, how are you? |
0:57.0 | I'm very good indeed. I'm in the middle of organising a big conference about women and science and what the features are which hold women back in being brilliant scientists to save the world. |
1:13.0 | Women in science? Does that mean you have our new science secretary, Michelle Donnellen coming? Surely she'll be top of your list? |
1:19.0 | I'm going to keep secret who we are. I was hoping you give me the exclusive Dorothy, but oh well. |
1:28.0 | Right, let's get started on another conference, more, more secretive than even Dorothy's closely, closely guarded guest list. |
1:37.0 | Ditchley Park was the site allegedly of a clandestine discussion on how to rectify rectify the errors of Brexit. |
1:46.0 | This was the story broken by the observer on Sunday. It's still being talked about in the papers. |
1:52.0 | Today's mail has an account of the gathering between Remainers and Leavers, including Michael Gove, Lord Mandelson, David Lamy, the shadow foreign secretary. |
2:00.0 | It reads, over fine, Claret Mandelson set out his vision for a cosier relationship with his beloved EU. |
2:08.0 | And here's how the former UKIP leader, former Brexit party leader Nigel Farage has been talking about it on his GB News show. |
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