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Abel James Show

Gary Taubes: Why We Get Fat, the Problem with Calories, and Why Eating Eggs Won't Kill You

Abel James Show

Abel James Bascom

Mental Health, Business, Entrepreneurship, Health & Fitness, Alternative Health, Nutrition

4.6 • 2.6K Ratings

šŸ—“ļø 15 February 2013

ā±ļø 62 minutes

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Summary

Gary TaubesĀ is an award-winning science writer and the bestselling author of the groundbreaking and controversial booksĀ Good Calories, Bad CaloriesĀ andĀ Why We Get Fat. Gary has been a contributing correspondent for the journal Science since 1993, and has contributed articles to The Atlantic Monthly, The New York Times Magazine, Esquire, and Slate.

Gary studied applied physics at Harvard University, aerospace engineering at Stanford, and journalism at Columbia University. But fortunately for all of us, he's dedicated himself to tearing down conventional nutritional theory with his research, books, as well as the co-Founder of theĀ Nutrition Science Initiative (NuSi).

My first response to Gary's work in "Good Calories, Bad Calories," was giddy delight. Why? Because I believe thatĀ the underlying cause of the obesity epidemic isn't in eating too much and exercising too little.Ā People are fat because they are malnourished and their bodies malfunction. This is a thesis I hadn't seen articulated sufficiently before discovering Gary's work.

A few other reasons why Gary's books are must-reads:

  1. They're are dripping in solid science. When someone demands, "I want proof that carbs are fattening, restricting calories isn't healthy, whole wheat is dangerous, and eggs won't kill me," throw this book at them. Watch their eyes roll back in their head when the happen upon theĀ formidableĀ references section.
  2. Gary provides historical insight into how conventional wisdom about a "healthy diet" was confounded by bad science and commandeeredĀ by special interests.
  3. Although the books can be heady, they're certainly readable. Generally, slogging through science is tedious, but these books are surprisingly accessible and entertaining.

Another very cool side-effect of getting Gary on the show was an unexpected insight. It was difficult to find a time to get us both on the horn because Gary tends to write until 1 pm on most days with limited distractions - no shows / interviews / unnecessary technology, etc. Doesn't that sound nice? Actually reserving time for yourself in the mornings to crank out work? I've started reserving my mornings for work, as well, and it's been amazing. No phone, no e-mail, no Facebook, no junk. Just clear-headed, creative work. Loving it.

Alright, onto the show. This one's content-packed, so grab your notebooks and get stoked. We cover:

  • Why before the 1960's, everyone knew what actually makes us fat
  • What makes us fat and why
  • Why eating eggs won't give you a heart attack
  • Whether or not there's such thing as a safe starch
  • As well as the one thing that Gary cut out of his diet to lose 15 pounds effortlessly

Here's the show.

Transcript

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0:00.0

Hi, folks, this is Abel James, and thanks so much for listening to the Fat Burning Man Show, where we talk about real food and real results.

0:18.5

Today's show is with the esteemed Gary Taubbs, the best-selling author,

0:22.6

of how we get fat and good calories, bad calories. Now before we get to the show, I wanted to let

0:28.1

you know that if you sign up for my mailing list for a limited time at fatburningman.com, you can

0:34.1

grab my whole fat loss system, which is e-books, audio, as well as video training for over 60% off at 1995.

0:42.5

So if you'd like to check that out, just head on over to fatburningman.com and sign up for the mailing list and we'll get you rolling right away.

0:49.9

A bit more exciting news. I'm teaming up with Dan Go to write a couple of books on intermittent fasting for women,

0:56.5

as well as another book on intermittent fasting for men.

0:59.3

So stay tuned.

1:00.1

Hopefully we'll have that out by summer or fall.

1:03.1

It's a super hot topic, and it's something that I do pretty much every day.

1:07.2

All right, this is a great content-packed show with Gary.

1:10.3

Now, in the show, Gary and I cover why pretty much everyone up until 1960 knew exactly what made us fat.

1:17.9

We talk about why eating eggs won't give you a heart attack, whether or not there's such things as a safe starch, as well as the one thing that Gary cut out of his diet to lose 15 pounds effortlessly.

1:28.3

All right, let's go hang out with Gary.

1:30.3

All right, folks, Gary Taubs is the best-selling author of the groundbreaking and controversial books,

1:48.0

Good Calories, Bad Calories, and Why We Get Fat.

1:50.6

Gary's also a dweller of rabbit holes, a hero to all heavy cream lovers like me.

1:55.3

Thanks so much for coming on the show, Gary.

1:57.4

Thanks for having me.

1:58.7

Absolutely.

1:59.7

So before we get into your approach, let's hear a little bit about your story.

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